PowerPoint/Multi Media

Discussion in 'Pastoral Ministries' started by TomVols, May 9, 2003.

  1. TomVols

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    How do you pastors utilize this in worship? After some experimentation, our church is making the full plunge. I'd appreciate your experiences.
     
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    We use it at our church.

    1) If you're "taking the plunge," you know how expensive the set-up can be!

    2) We put the words to hymns and other music up there.

    3) Announcement slide show runs prior to service and after service, but eventually, people will stop paying attention, just like in bulletins!

    4) Our pastor put the Focal verses up there, but in time he realized he was making his congregation lazy. People even stopped bringing their Bibles. He doesn't do that anymore.

    5) Our pastor puts his outline (not detailed - in bullet format) for those that would take notes. If you make it too detailed, you're pretty much a slave to it, for the presentation's sake...be careful!

    6) The challenge to all of this is not only to get someone that's proficient in running the system, but has become very familiar with the order of service for each week, including your sermon format, should you decide to use it. That way, when things accidentaly go "out of order" (and they will), that person can immediatly adjust the presentation to fit where you are, and by doing that avoid distraction.

    Hope this helps...
     
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    Resorting to mechanics makes robots out of people. :rolleyes:

    Where's the demonstration and power of the Holy Spirit? :( :confused: :(

    I remember those overhead projectors in elementary school in assembly, most boring experience in school I can recall, even more boring than any academics. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Sounds like your church has not had a very good experience with it.
     
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    Let me clarify: When put together well and run by someone that knows what they're doing, it can really be good. The items I mentioned above are simply "lessons learned."

    ITNAC, I don't think multimedia is not boring. Especially when combined with the thought over, prayed over program of a godly music minister and the sermon of a godly pastor. Granted, I don't particularly like it, but it is handy when you want to show a video or put up the words to a responsive reading.
     
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    Sounds like your church has got the hang of it. [​IMG]
     
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    Sorry, but I've just never been much for the mechanics, I've always been the type that enjoys true to life preaching. I'm sure it would have it's use in the "mega" churches, but we're too small to incorporate things that big.

    I'm all for everyone having their part in the service, becoming engulfed in the worship.
     
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    Mechanics? You mean like the mechanics involved in expository preparation? Or the mechanics involved in establishing an evangelism plan (one that can be evaluated for effectiveness)? How about the mechanics like order of service, note structure in hymn books, etc...

    The rolling eyes icon is well put.

    When you preach, do you just get up in the pulpit, open your Bible to a random passage and then just fire away? Or do you actually spend hours in study, prayer, and other preparation?
     
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    I do my best to remain sensitive to the promptings of the Holy Spirit regardless of how much time I've studied and prayed in preparation.

    We don't put out on a message board or in the bulletin the message for the day, we rely solely on the Holy Ghost for direction. Sometimes the Lord changes the order of things for the service, no matter how prepared I think I am. He's known to blow our little programs to smithereens! And thank the Good Lord for doing so many times before, and anticipating Him doing it again!
     
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    Ain't that the truth! That's why if you use such a system for presentation, you have to use someone that's quick on their feet to operate it! (Generally, that means to pick someone in the college/career age category!)
     
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    This ain't like yore experiences in Elemetary School this is like modern day TV run by a Computer! [​IMG]

    And I'll be you're not using the all the same tools that plumbers used 100 years ago either. I'll bet you have some modern inventions in your toolbox. :eek:

    Shouldn't God's Church use the best tools available to help present the Gospel? You Betcha! [​IMG]
     
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    Anyone else tired of this broken-down bifurcation that is solely the product of modern man?
     
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    Anyone else tired of this broken-down bifurcation that is solely the product of modern man? </font>[/QUOTE]Hey Tom, Do you mind defining "broken-down bifurcation"? I know what broken-down insinuates, but "bifurcation" isn't a very common word. Is it one of them thar refined words of the upper-intellectual class? Ussin' ol' backwoods fellars ain't got 'nuff sense but to follow God y'know.
     
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    We don't put out on a message board or in the bulletin the message for the day, we rely solely on the Holy Ghost for direction. Sometimes the Lord changes the order of things for the service, no matter how prepared I think I am.

    I do agree that sometimes the Lord changes the order of things for the service. I have no problem making changes. When changes are needed, I always let my pianist know and the pastor if he is not otherwise involved in doing something else.

    Does your church have a bulletin and if it does, do you list an order of worship. Prelude, Opening Hymn, Welcome and so on?
     
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    I am songleader in my church and we started using powerpoint a couple of years ago. I noticed that no one opens their hymnbooks anymore. Even on occasion when the system is down for some reason and the words to the hymns are not up on the screen people have become lazy and end up singing only the choruses to the songs because they dont know the words to the verses of the songs. I also noticed that they dont bother using their Bible anymore becaus all the relevent verses are up on the screen. Alot of the special music is sung to sound track tapes also. Pretty soon we will be watching the pastor preach on the screen and he can sit and watch himself preach. Everything seems so canned anymore.
     
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    I love power point for teaching. Have seen it used successfully in church services.

    Our church is paying $28k for an entire makeover of a sound system, computerized power point facilities et al. Way too much money imho and it won't be done by June 15th so guess the new pastor will be blessed with it. I am envious.

    Praise God for modern inventions. Power point is no more "evil" than electric lights, bulletins, overheads, et al. All enhance the communication of the Word.
     
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    "Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof" You can mark it down! You're post reveals the symptoms of a dying church, or at least one slipping off into a sort of limbo.

    Getting people more involved in the works and worship is what church is all about, it's what makes a church alive! [​IMG] not simplifying everything thinking we've gotten the message across any better. WE are creatures of habit, if we are trained on how the program works, we know how to be slothful and get around the system. And to think we preachers have preached against this sort of stuff for years now, and the people are becoming comfortably numb!
    :rolleyes:
     
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    If they don't open their hymnals or Bibles when the system is down, it sounds like a people problem. We don't use powerpoint or screens of any kind. Here, there a number of people who open their hymnal and do not sing. There are several who do not open their hymnals at all. We have a people problem. I don't think using powerpoint, bulletins or hymnal is the real issue.
     
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    If they don't open their hymnals or Bibles when the system is down, it sounds like a people problem. We don't use powerpoint or screens of any kind. Here, there a number of people who open their hymnal and do not sing. There are several who do not open their hymnals at all. We have a people problem. I don't think using powerpoint, bulletins or hymnal is the real issue. </font>[/QUOTE]That's what I love about the Lord, His system is never down!
     
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    We're just palin down home folks serving a down home Lord. We don't have the line of order system you're talking about, we tend to be more personal than so stiff and predictable, though we do have an opening song and a "How do you do?" greeting.

    There I go! "Bifurcating" again! Ya'll 'scuse me fer that! [​IMG]
     

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