Prairie Bible College

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  1. ktn4eg

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    Anyone familiar with Prairie Bible College of Three Hills, Alberta, Canada?

    I was thinking about taking some Distance Education courses strictly for personal development since I already have a undergraduate and graduate degree.

    Any helpful comments about PBC would be appreciated.

    [And, yes, I know it is not a distinctively Baptist institution.]
     
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    My cousin graduated from there. She wanted a Bible education and seemed to get one but her degree was worthless when her husband became sick and she wanted to work toward getting a teaching credential. The university would not accept her degree toward anything. So she feels stuck to a much lower paying job.
     
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    ==I have found that secular universities normally do not accept credits from religious programs. I have a MA in Religion and I am going to start a MA in history this fall. The University I will be attending is state run (ie..secular). While they were impressed with my Church History courses (and grades) and my gpa they would not accept transfer credits. Why? Because it is a religious program. They view those degrees as being "ministry" degrees and not academic degrees. Is that fair? No. My MAR was focused on Biblical Studies and Church History. I only took TWO ministry courses! However that is the way it is. I really feel for your cousin but if her degree from Prairie is a religious degree than I am not surprised by the lack of acceptance from a secular university. [​IMG]

    Martin.
     
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    There is some truth in what Martin says in that even accredited programs that are religious encouter some prejudice. First, there is the issue of Regional accreditation versus ATS/TRACS/AABC. There are some programs I have seen that will not consider an ATS Masters for admission unless it is RA (most ATS are but not all). Then I had a chaplain friend who graduated from an AABC school and had to take extra classes at Kansas State U (back in the 80's). Reason was that the AABC degree was "not accredited". Times are certainly changing and you find more unversities willing to consider nationally recongnized accreditors as long as the agencies are recognized by CHEA/US Dept of Ed. For instance, University of OK (I believe) accepts TRACS accreditation. There are a growing list. Capella (regionally accredited school offering BA thru PhD on line accepts national accreditation). The large employer I work for and many others recognize any accredited degree (RA,TRACS, ATS, DETC)accredited by an agency recongized by US Dept of Ed/CHEA. As I recall PBC is AABC (or whatever it's new name is) now. There is no evidence to suggest (other than occasional assumptions) that a National Accreditor is any less rigorous than a Regional Accreditor (as long as they are both CHEA/US Dept of Ed recognized). Remember the much malinged University of Pheonix is Regionally accredited. Frankly, I have heard more nasty comments about that schools quaility than any other (from Rutgers grads, University Prof's, etc).

    Obviously, the relgious schools recognize it (Liberty U, Regents and so on). What your friend should have done is used her BA for entrance into a distance learning teaching program at Liberty U (etc) that would have qualified her for certification or tried Governor's University (not sure if they do accept AABC or not).

    There is a general bigotry towards things religious. Much of my resume was religious postitions and I encountered the occasional note of disapproval from secular organizations.

    Nord
     
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    I can remeber looking at Prairie thirty or so years ago when it was still PBI. It looked pretty good then. But the Lord led me to get a full four year Bible College education.

    As for cousin, PBC is a Canadian school. From what I hear, foriegn degrees are not that easily transferable to begin with. Then you add its religious source and the climb gets steeper. Has she or PBC tried to work something out with Maranatha BBC or International Baptist? Both have accredited teaching programs.

    And if she is still north of the Border, well . . .
     
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    Actually she now lives in Lodi, CA near Stockton.
     
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    I graduated from SWBTS with a M.Div. and the school I am at now in Industrial Technology accepted that degree.
     
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    ==When you say "the school I am at now...accepted" your MDiv what do you mean?

    I don't want to sound picky or anything but I am curious about what you mean. Me, Martin, picky? Never... [​IMG]

    Do you mean that they acknowledged it? Or do you mean that they accepted transfer credits (or were willing to accept transfer credits)?

    The secular school I will attend in the fall (for History MA) accepted my MA/Religion degree. However they would not transfer any history courses from that program to this program. Why? Because those courses were church history. Now had it been a different graduate history program they would have transfered a course or two but because it was a seminary program they would not. You see where I am coming from?

    In Christ,
    Martin [​IMG]
     
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    ==When you say "the school I am at now...accepted" your MDiv what do you mean?
    </font>[/QUOTE]I did get a BA in Industrial Arts but did not get a MA in Industrial Technology from the same university because I completed the MA program and not the thesis. I later graduated with a M. Div. from SWBTS. The secular university I am at now accepted me into their doctoral program in Industrial Technology. My transcripts show a BA in Industrial Arts and a M.Div. with biblical languages. Hopefully in less than one year they will show a doctorate granted.
     
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    It wasn't my intention in my OP to have this thread stray off into issues regarding acceptance of degrees and/or accreditation(s).

    What I really want to know about PBC (esp. from those who may have taken course from them) was if they found the courses comprehensive and challenging with regard to the subject matter of the course(s).

    As I said in my OP, I'm only considering a course or two from PBC's Distance Education division and only for personal development since I've already received a BA and an MA.
     
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    Im quoting what I was told - but this was several years ago - from a "friendish" of mine who went there

    He said some courses were a breeze - others were hard as all get out - so basically its a normal bible college - although i rank it higher then "bridalquest" errr I mean Briercrest - If yer looking for a Bible college in Canada there's a good one in BC I forget which but its degrees have value - and then there are some in Toronto, Ontario who being affiliated with secular universities get a little credence added on to their sheepskins

    As to the impact of the school on the person - I didnt notice much of a change
     
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    Sularis (et. al.),

    I'm not necessarily looking for a Canadian Bible College (not that there's anything particularily wrong with them that I know of), nor am I looking for another degree, nor am I planning to phyisically attend their campus(es).

    What I'm seeking out are just a couple good on-line classes from places that have been around for a while. PBC/PBI has been in business for quite some time and (as best I can tell) has a fairly good reputation (i.e., not a fly-by-night diploma mill).

    As Sularis mentioned, I'm sure that at any place one would find some classes easier than others depending upon one's background, aptitudes, etc.

    In my case, I'm just trolling around for some on-line courses from a Biblical perspective simply to broaden my knowledge and challenge my thinking.
     
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    L.E. Maxwell was the head of Prairie Bible Institute in Three Hills , Alberta , Canada . He has been favorably compared to A.W. Tozer . They even shared a preacher's platform at least once . Are any of you familiar with Mr. Maxwell ? Did you hear him preach ? When did he die ? ( I assume he's dead , if he was a Tozer contemporary .)
     
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    I haven't had any news of the school in many years, but it used to be a little heavy on the "deeper life" idea, the teaching that the Spirit can "slay" you and take over and preach through you. Some felt there was a second work of the Spirit etc.

    Basically other than that they used to be pretty straight doctrinally. They were also quite strict in the rules etc, but that was 20 years ago.

    Maxwell was part of the above teaching, but in 20 years much can and usually does change. I would guess he is gone - he was older back then.

    Knew a couple of their grads and they were good men.
     

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