Preaching on the Passion

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  1. amen_corner

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    Is anyone planning on preaching on the Passion, since the movie is due out soon and is making big waves around the nation? If so, what is your text and outline?
     
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    Buddy!!!! When I get through preaching-----Mel will be looking at my "Tail Lights!!!!" Know what I mean?????

    Calvary---Where man did his worst! But God did His best!!!

    Your Southern Baptist preacher friend,
    Brother David
     
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    I thought God did His Best on that First Day of the Week, that's what I preach after going past Calvary anyway, you know, on that "borrowed tomb"?

    Victory was won at Calvary, but the celebration consumated when He arose!
     
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    True, Precepts, true!!! But we can't minimize the words of Isaiah---"We esteemed Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted"---and the passage that probably has excaped Mel's mind---"The LORD hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all"---that probably won't be in Mel's sermon---but it'll be in mine!! and verse 10, "YET it pleased the Lord to bruise Him; He(the Father) hath put Him(the Son) to grief."---Isaiah 53

    A true blue expository sermon on Isaiah 53 will dwarf Mel Gibson!!!

    AND ON THE THRID DAY . . . BLESSED ASSURANCE!!! JESUS IS MINE!!! OHHHHH, BUT AREN'T YOU GLAD THAT DARK CALVARY----LEADS TO GLORIOUS EASTER???

    Your Southern Baptist peacher buddy,
    Brother David
     
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    "The Cries from the Cross!" for me!

    Then "Day Break at Son Rise!!"

    Interesting though, that the Lord rose "early" on the first day---but it wasn't until the setting of the s-u-n that it began to "dawn" up the disciples---to gather up in that upper room!!!!
     
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    I will be teaching my Jr. High Sunday School class how to spot heresy in alleged "Jesus films" and how to tell if a film is glorifying Jesus or glorifying the demonic violence and pain inflicted on our Saviour. I will be teaching them why movie theaters tend to have a hypnotic effect on viewers, and they often leave a film praising it, diregarding the biblical inaccuracy and bizarre agenda behind it. I will also explain apostasy and the Laodicean church mentioned in Revelation. I will teach them how to spot a false prophet and the difference between True Evangelism and Product Marketing.
     
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    Boy, forever-settled, you said a mouthful. Poor Mel is still doing penance and working for his own atonement.

    How thankful we should be for what Jesus did and believe it by faith.
     
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    Which Biblical text will you use to teach all of that?

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    I've heard the people coming out from the film are speechless.
     
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    They don't stay speechless for very long, the way they rave about it. I've experienced pressure to go to this movie, very "passionate" persuasion. What Biblical text will I use to teach all these things? Now that's what I've been saying all along. Good going, Joseph Botwinick. It's in the works, give me a little time and I'll gladly share the verses. For starters, all of the epistle of First John, Timothy, First and Second Peter, Gospel of John. For specific verses, hang in there bro, they's a comin'. Thanks for concern. I notice the Israel flag above your head. I bought two at the Israel Fair at local synagogue a while back. Let's hope this "Passion Play" isn't like the old Medieval ones, that stirred up hatred against Jews for "killing Christ" (since it was Jewish leaders, incited mob, Romans, our sins, God's Divine Plan, and Jesus' voluntary sacrifice that contributed to the death of Jesus, not just the Jewish race.)
     
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    Vaspers,

    I am wondering if you are still searching for verses to back up your ideology. Did you start with the concept first and then search for a Biblical text to support it? Or did you start with reading your Bible and then come to those conclusions from what you read from the Bible? My point is, if you learned this from the Bible, and are so sure it is correct, you shouldn't have to search the Bible to support it. You should be able to tell me specific verses that teach this. I apologize if I was not clear in what I was saying.

    I notice the Israel flag above your head. I bought two at the Israel Fair at local synagogue a while back. Let's hope this "Passion Play" isn't like the old Medieval ones, that stirred up hatred against Jews for "killing Christ" (since it was Jewish leaders, incited mob, Romans, our sins, God's Divine Plan, and Jesus' voluntary sacrifice that contributed to the death of Jesus, not just the Jewish race.) [/QUOTE]

    I think the following link might give a good summation of my feelings on this topic:

    http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/32/1550.html#000003

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    I shouldn't have to search the Bible to support what? What do you think I need to support? I told you First John epistle, see that to discover difference between false prophet and true. See all four gospels then compare to "Passion" film's distortions, additions, and deletions (heresy in "Jesus films"). You can do a little Bible research and come up with your own conclusions, which may or may not be similar to mine. Each person should compare all evangelical "products" with scriptures to see if they are truly biblical or just marketing hype. John MacArthur's web site posts a warning about this "Passion" film if yr interested. That's www.gty.com/IssuesandAnswers/archive/thepassion.htm. Now I gotta go type up my "99 Theses" to nail to the door of my church tomorrow, actually my concerns about this film, to distribute to members of my church and to my pastor. They are about 98% in favor of film, with just a few of us alarmed about it. That may change as of tomorrow, since I'm the official church Promotions Manager. Let's see if I can put my skills to good use.
     
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    ah yes, the 5 solas of the Reformation--how sweet n glorious they r! [​IMG]

    i'm boggled n near speechless (but not yet, thankfully! :D ) abt the gross n general incredulity the entire evangelical machinery is towards Romanism. in fact, it goes beyond incredulity to a kind of fascism that squelches negative review n co-opts bloc support for the movie. n the sheep go right along!

    my recommendation was to COMPARE the Dolorous Passion w the real Gospels. but i'm not optimistic--i'm sure someone's gonna say about them both, "It is as it was!" :rolleyes:
     
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    It seems that the movie highlights the "what" of the Cross...it portrays the brutality of it, etc. And it is a man's vision of the Passion that is portrayed, and Gibson has been clear to state in interviews.

    My feeling is that the church has an incredible opportunity to preach on the "why" of the Cross. That was the gist of my original question...not are you preaching on the film, but on the Cross! This is where believers have an amazing opportunity to share the truth of the gospel, when they go beyond looking at the "what" to sharing the "why" of the cross!
     
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    Some of the churches (Baptist, mainly) here have bought loads of tickets up (for people to invite others as outreach) and are planning to have an alter call at the end of the movie (no doubt after a sermonette). One was mentioned on the news last night.
     
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    vaspers, I tried the link you gave for John MacArthur:
    &lt;&lt; " John MacArthur's web site posts a warning about this "Passion" film if yr interested. That's www.gty.com/IssuesandAnswers/archive/thepassion.htm. " &gt;&gt;

    and got a page that looked like it was in Japanese. ?¿?
     
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    Baptist Teacher---It was Korean!!! Blackbird could tell by the "squiggly" lines!!!
     

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