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SFIC, where does it say that on the info you pasted. The link comes from this webpage which is not Rick's church.

http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/archives/2006/02/rick_warren_the.php

 

Romans 1:19 - 23...

This is a people to whom God has revealed Himself to, yet chose to reject Him.

They knew who God was, but chose not to glorify Him as God. They became conceited, not revering God as God, but mere man

 

SBC,

This site is just one of the several venues of Rick Warren's Saddleback. Click on the links on the left of the page and you will see. It even gives you audio messages by Rick and his other pastors.

 

How did God reveal himself to them according to this Scripture?

Joseph Botwinick

 

SFIC, that site says nothing of the sort. It is a blog of a person that keeps up with things in the "contemporary" church. I see no link to Rick Warren and Saddleback.

 

The passage does not say God revealed Himself in them, but 'that which may be known of God is manifest in them'. There is a difference. He reveals Himself through His Word. These rejected the Word given.

 

SBC, you must not be looking

 

SFIC, I have the site up in front of me right now as we speak.

Go to their main site right here and see for yourself.

http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/

 

SBC, click on the word 'This' after the first sentence on the page.

It takes you to the Saddleback page and directly to the question 32

 

ck Warren believes that there is salvation today for those who have never heard of Jesus. This

 

On the main page there is some links to Warren stuff, but not in support of it. That is not a site that is connected with Warren and his ministry.

This is not a webpage that is connected as you stated to Warren and Saddleback.

 

How was God revealed to those who had no written Word of God...like say Moses and Abraham?

Joseph Botwinick

 

And you seem to have your hands full bashing them on this thread with a very unwarranted generalization...although, I don't think it is quite as funny as you seem to think it is.

Joseph Botwinick </font>[/QUOTE]Oh come on Joseph. It was a joke with truth. This comment hardly qualifies as bashing. If you can find one and I mean one comment in which I have personally attacked a person or a pastor, post it. How many threads do we have that have run well over 100 posts’ in which there is negative comment after negative comment made about Warren, Graham or others? There are misconstrued statements and personal attacks against these men of God. If my comment qualifies as bashing then so does yours. I said they were bashing and you said I was bashing, hence the circular logic.

 

IOW, it is not a primary source. It is, rather, a secondary source that tells you what he said without verifying it. Around here, we call that slander or gossip or some such.

Joseph Botwinick

 

I had no trouble finding the link--The first hyperlinked word on that page is This

 

That is not the page that SFIC posted here, it was the one with added commentary that was not with Warren's words.

People can clearly see that by going to the original link. SFIC was basing his comments on the commentary of someone other than Warren or his church.

Thats all I got to say about it.

 

Go to question 31 or 32.

Ricks letters

 

Last time I looked, Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, CA is Rick Warren's church. Saddleback Church, Lake Forest, CA

 

How was God revealed to those who had no written Word of God...like say Moses and Abraham?

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