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Preserved in English God's Word KJV

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by DeclareHim, Aug 12, 2004.

  1. Rooster

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    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] </font>[/QUOTE]We have a lot of facts,its your side that doesnt. [​IMG] [​IMG] </font>[/QUOTE]That is the undisputted truth! [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Hey, Natters, be nice.
    BOth Acts 11 and Acts 13 mention the
    city of Syrian Antioch (not to be confused
    with Pisidian Antioch). To bad that
    the Antiochian texts are more often referred
    to as the Benyzine Texts by most scholars.
    But, of course, by KJVO Double standards:
    the comments of an ignorant KJVO superceeds
    the comments of a wise foreign language
    scholar.
    </font>[/QUOTE]The best Scholar on the subject is the Holy Spirit not some guy who knows alot according to the worlds standards.

    Ecclesiastes 1:17(KJV) And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.
     
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    Why not ?

    Not everything that comes out of the Vatican is wrong.

    The Reformers all came out of the Vatican, and thanks to that era, you have the beginnings of your KJV, right ?
    </font>[/QUOTE]Wrong, and the Catholic church came out of the pagen religons of Babylon.
     
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    Please, don't confuse them with the facts. They don't want to acknowledge that the reformers were splinters off the RCC. They don't want to acknowledge that the KJV is a part of that heritage. It frightens them. [​IMG]

    AVL1984 [​IMG]
    </font>[/QUOTE]I think you have your facts cofused, or else you would not be flying a protistant flag. [​IMG]
     
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    The words are:

    undisputed (one "t")

    confused--not "cofused"

    pagan--not "pagen"

    Protestant--not "protistant"
     
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    Good point. [​IMG]

    AVL1984
     
  8. robycop3

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    KJVBT:Let me explain something about the Wescott and Horton text that most(if not all,im not sure.) MVs use...

    Without being condescending, the name you have in mind is HORT.

    And most modern translators have CONSIDERED the W&H text, but do NOT use it as their sole source. They employ an ECLECTIC METHOD, using just about all available ms as sources.


    it came from manuscripts found in a Roman Catholic monastary.

    Actually, Sinaiticus was found in a GREEK ORTHODOX monastery.


    I believe the manuscripts were called the "Vaticanus"(sp?),this does not seem like a very good thing to use to me.

    Vaticanus was one of the first docs to be catalogued in the Vatican library in 1475. Both it and Sinaiticus are older than any of the mss used by the AV translators.
     
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    KJVBT:We have a lot of facts,its your side that doesnt.

    In all seriousness, we haven't seen one relevant fact from the KJVOs for over 30 years. All we've seen is the same ole codwallop that was proven wrong over 30 years ago. That's why we hope YOUR paper will be a breath of fresh air instead of the same ols KJVO hot, stale air.
     
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    A_A:Plus Church history and Scripture to boot(Acts 11 & 13).

    Depending upon WHICH church's history you're following...the early AV boosters weren't too kind to Baptists. And neither Acts 11 nor 13 gives the KJVO myth the slightest support.
     
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    Major B...

    Burgon wrote, concerning the Textus Receptus:

    "Let no one at all events obscure the one question at issue, by asking, ? 'whether we consider the Textus Receptus infallible?' The merit or demerit of the Received Text has absolutely nothing whatever to do with the question. We care nothing about it. Any text would equally suit our present purpose" (J. Burgon, The Revision Revised pg. 17).

    "Once for all, we request it may be clearly understood that we do not, by any means, claim perfection for the Received Text. We entertain no extravagant notions on this subject. Again and again we shall have occasion to point out (eg. at pg. 107) that the Textus Receptus needs correction" (J. Burgon, The Revision Revised pg. 21, note 3).

    The KJVOs don't wanna quote this man whom they've made one of their poster boys, where he's said things contrary to their myth. Since Burgon died in 1888, he didn't see the KJVO myth of today, and we can only speculate that he would've scorned it as devoid of facts.
     
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    Rooster:The best Scholar on the subject is the Holy Spirit not some guy who knows alot according to the worlds standards.

    So ya better listen to Him when He shows you the facts against the KJVO myth. He may be trying to tell you something on this very board.

    Ecclesiastes 1:17(KJV) And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.

    A verse that is easily applied to KJVOs.
     
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    Rooster:Wrong, and the Catholic church came out of the pagen religons of Babylon.

    Actually, the early English-language Bibles WERE made because of the RCC, and some Godly mens' wanting to make the Scriptures available to ALL English readers.

    And the Anglicans of the time were Neo-Catholics, practicing a form of catholicism without the pope, Mariolatry, and celibacy. They still had (and have) archbishops, etc. It's similar to the offshoots of Mormonism such as the "Aaronic Order", or "Church of Christ with the Elijah message". Same basic heretical beliefs.
     
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