President Bush's 2004 Ramadan Greetings

Of course you are. Nothing he could do would change that.

 

Sounds to me like some of the weaker brothers need to hear Paul's sermon again on eating meat offered to idols.

 

If Bush remembered Yom Kippur in a speech, would we be as upset? If he mentioned Mother Theresa of the Pope? What about speaking to a group of JW's or Mormons?

Agree Hardsheller.

Diane

 

No Christian should endorse the satanic god of Islam.

You can attempt to relativize that if you wish, but that wou't change it.

 

Any 'god' other than the one true God is a Satanic god, Jim.

Time to get the little ones dressed and the bigger one to schooling so I'll be away for a few hours.

Diane

 

First things first...and family is FIRST!

 

Thanks JohnV. I agree with you about not hijacking the thread. I'll do some looking.

 

Not better, just not as tied down to the Republican party, that's all.

 

Actually, the context I was making was that Christ did not come to give us a new religion. he came to give us a new faith. We humans created the religion to support our fellowship in that faith. I commented that it's possible that one can be a Jew, Muslim, etc, can be born again and practice at least parts of their respective religions, but it would be difficult. I used to know a Christian who was raised in (and still pracccticed) Judaism. His practices were Jewish, but his heart belonged to Christ. I can't begin to judge Christians who are members of non-Christian religions. It's not my place. I'm lucky. I was raised a Christian, as I think many of us were, I don't think any of us have really had to deal with religious culturalism.

 

An absolutely ridiculous statement! Next you will be saying that a person can be a satanist and still be a born again Christian.

 

Plenty of Messianic Jews still keep the feasts, Many converts from Islam to Christianity still wear headcoverings.

 

I didn't notice that in his posts. I also wonder why Christians are behind a man with the same agenda as Bill Clinton.

 

Fine and dandy, but Yom Kippur is mostly celebrated by a religious people who, by the strictest of Christian standards, deny the triune God of scripture.

Actually, it was the colonies that were founded on the principle of religious liberty. The country, however, was founded upon taxation without representation.

Bush has no authority to invite anyone to speak at the National Cathedral, since it belongs to the Episcopals, and not to the public. However, if Bush invited such a speaker, likely, I would be, too. But if he asked a Jewish Rabbi who was not a terrorist to speak, it wouldn't bother me. If he invited a Muslim speaker who was not a terrorist, it wouldn't bother me. If he invited a Hindu speaker, it wouldn't bother me. If he invited a Catholic speaker, it wouldn't bother me. If he invited a Mormon speaker, it woldn't bother me. If he invited a Buddhist speaker, it wouldn't bother me. If he invited a Lutheran speaker, it wouldn't bother me. If he invited a Salvation Army speaker, it wouldn't bother me.

In all fairness, I do agree with you. However, the arguement that people make with Muslims, Mormons, and most non-Christian monotheists, is that they're worshipping a false god because they deny the God of the Bible. By that same standard, however, Jews also worship a false god because the deny the God of the Bible. To that there can be no arguement, if one is to be consistent.

Sorry, but as I said before, that's simply not the case. I guess when I requested that we not hijack this thread for that purpose, some people just dont' want to simply agree to disagree, so I will reply. Allah is what Arab speaking people called God before Mohammed, and it is what Arab speaking people called God afterwards. Arab Christians and Jews, both before and after the time of Mohammed, refer to God as Allah. Today, Arab speaking Christians and Jews call God Allah. Why? Because that's the Arabic word for "God". The misconception of the moon god issue stems from the fact that preislamic arabian polytheists had a moon god, as well as other gods, that could be referred to as either "allah" or "el-ilah", but in neither case is its usage a reference to a formal nomenclature.

Now that I've responded, I'll ask again that we not hijack the thread, and rfocus back on the opening post issue.

 

But we're not talking about polythism here, we're talking about monotheism. Preislamic arabic speaking monotheists (namely, Christians and Jews) referred to God as Allah. They still call Him Allah today.

This is that part where it becomes frustrating to be a poster with a desire to rebut. The moderators have said in the past that we are forbidden from posting any links or threads that support Islam. Though I do not support or endorse any faith but that in Christ Jesus, in order for me to reply to the previous posts, I will have to violate that edict and risk being banned from the board. Hence, I have no choice but to bow out and will have to respectfully agree to disagree with LE.

While I would love have full free speech privileges on the issue, I also understand the need for the moderators to regulate the board.