President Bush's Faith Featured In 'The Wall Street Journal'

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  1. I Am Blessed 24

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    Saturday, July 19 @ 16:11:34 CDT

    Summary: A recent commentary published in The Wall Street Journal describes President George Bush's faith and how it impacts his presidency.

    Brendan Miniter, an assistant editor of OpinionJournal.com, recently wrote an editorial in The Wall Street Journal on President Bush's faith. According to Miniter, "Domestically the president's evangelicalism is barely beneath the surface. He's expanded funding for volunteerism with Freedom Corps and, with his Faith Based Initiative, is fighting to allow religious groups to get more federal money without compromising their faith."

    Miniter concludes his editorial by noting: "Far-left extremists have likened the president to the Taliban. The comparison is ridiculous, of course. Removing antireligious bias from federal grants, calling for good works, spending more on volunteer programs, and imbibing policies with compassion may not satisfy those of us who'd like to see smaller government, but it is a far cry from creating a theocracy."

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  2. Terry_Herrington

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    Sue's post said,

    "He's expanded funding for volunteerism with Freedom Corps and, with his Faith Based Initiative, is fighting to allow religious groups to get more federal money without compromising their faith

    Watch out! When you take government money you are susceptible to government rules.
     
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    I am hoping this covers the point you brought up...
     
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    So Sue, you wouldn't object to Scientologists or Wiccans getting some of your tax dollars to do good works, and that they not be accountable nor compromise their faiths? How about Islamics or Hindus? Sauce for the goose.
     
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    Sue,

    I'm not against "faith based ministries." I'm just leery about the church getting money from the government.

    It is hard to believe that there will not be some strings attached, eventually.
     
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    Terry: Our church would not accept government money whether there were strings attached or not. We don't want to have to answer to them.

    I still thought it was a nice article and refreshing to see something like that about our President for a change. [​IMG]
     
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    Well, there are those of us that would prefer smaller government.
     
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    Yes. I happen to be one of those people. But, as the article stated, it is still "a far cry from creating a theocracy."

    Blessings,
    Sue
     
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    He promotes the homosexual agenda more than any president to date.

    He sits quietly by, hoping not to make a cmapaign issue of abortion, while 3500 babies per day.

    He makes massive increases in federal funding of education, furthering the humanistic, anti-Christian programs that are forced into our schools by the federal gov't.

    Then he gives a few million dollars of money (forcibly taken from us and others as taxes) to us to demonstrate how his "faith" affects his presidency.

    My vote is not for sale, neither is my Church.
     
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    Could you give me some facts backing up this statement please?

    He had done MORE to STOP abortion than any other president to date. Clinton vetoed the 'partial-birth abortion ban' twice. President Bush signed it!

    This did not start with him! :rolleyes:

    He did not write this article, you missed the whole point. He does not demonstrate his faith with dollars...he demonstrates it by his willingness to seek God in all matters.

    Neither is mine. I will gladly GIVE my vote to a President who is moral and prays for guidance. It is 100 times better than the immoral president we had in there last time around.

    One who is all for a Christian White House in 2004,
    Sue
     
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    Sue, you ask:
    Sure, here are twelve...there are more but time is limited and I think you can see the picture:

    1. Candidate George W. Bush appointed four openly homosexual, gay-rights advocates to his presidential campaign steering committee. According to the homosexual group, Log Cabin Republicans, "scores" of Bush state steering committee members and campaign volunteers were homosexuals.

    2. Perhaps this explains why hundreds of homosexuals gathered in Washington, D.C., last weekend to "celebrate the achievements and leadership of George W. Bush." It also helps to explain why Rich Tafel, executive director of Log Cabin Republicans, said, "We want the country to know that we are behind our president and administration."

    3. On Dec. 21, 2001, President Bush signed a historic bill, which "for the first time allows the District of Columbia government to fund a program that will give domestic partners of city employees access to health benefits." Remember, Bush insisted that openly homosexual Congressman Jim Kolbe of Arizona be given a prominent speaking role at the Republican National Convention. It was Kolbe who introduced the amendment lifting the ban on gay partner benefits in D.C.

    4. Bush named Scot Evertz, a prominent homosexual activist, to head the White House AIDS office even though he had absolutely no experience dealing with public health issues.

    5. Bush appointed another homosexual activist, Donald Cappoccia, to the U.S. Commission on Fine Arts.

    6. Bush appointed openly homosexual, Michael Guest, as Ambassador to Romania. Since then, Bush has decided to leave in place a Clinton policy that calls for supporting the "unmarried partners" of U.S. Foreign Service workers. This allows Guest's live-in lover to live in the U.S. Embassy in Bucharest and allows him to join Guest at official embassy functions.

    7. Bush presided over the appointment of homosexual activist, Stephen Herbits, to oversee the choice of civilian personnel at the Pentagon.

    8. Bush has not reversed a single pro-homosexual policy instituted by former president Bill Clinton. Not even one!

    9. The Bush administration posted a job for what is called a "gay and lesbian program specialist" at the Department of Agriculture.

    10. Bush appointed the ardently pro-homosexual Governor of Massachussetts, Paul Cellucci, as U.S. Ambassador to Canada.

    11. Bush appointed Lewis Eisenberg to become the new GOP chief fundraiser. Eisenberg has a long history of supporting pro-homosexual and pro-abortion candidates.

    12. Just yesterday, The Washington Times reported, "The Bush administration has joined European delegates to an upcoming U.N. summit on children in moving to recognize families 'in various forms,' including unmarried cohabiting couples and homosexual partners."

    From: http://covenantnews.com/baldwin020423.htm

    When I said:
    , you said:
    No it didn't. He just made it worse. But why do you excuse him just because Bill Clinton did it? Did you give Clinton a pass on it just because Bush Sr. did it before him?? I'll bet not.

    You said:
    In the book of James we read:

    "[17] Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
    [18] Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
    [19] Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
    [20] But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
    [21] Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
    [22] Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
    [23] And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
    [24] Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
    [25] Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
    [26] For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also."
     
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    So anyway, I answered the question with plenty of documenation. But I don't know if it was even read. Gee, thanks for the courteous discussion, I'm really glad I took the time to document my case as requested.
     
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    I have been out of town. I answered you via pm because homosexuality is to be discussed only in the private forums.

    §ue
     
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    Sue,

    Could you link me to the Webmaster's or Moderator's post that prohibits discussion of homosexuality on the Baptist Board. Thanks, I must have missed it.
     
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    LINK

    If you go to Page 2 of this forum as well as others you will notice all the threads with locks on them. You will find this message on the last post by a moderator.

     
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    Good information Jim. Bush was if not still a member of the secret Society called Skull and Bones.
     
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    Yes, you have to wonder what that means. It's interesting, but from a practical perspective all you have to know are his policies, which are flat-out liberal, mostly even more so that Bill Clinton.

    The thing that amazes me is that no matter how badly he trashes what conservative Christians stand for, so many will defend him no matter what. The campaign strategists must sit and laugh about how gullible Christians are. Some testimony. What a shame.
     
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    With all of her faults....would any of you care to live in another country?

    You wouldn't have the freedom to bash the President (or whatever) there though...might want to think about how good you have it, for a change, instead of whining about what you DON'T have. ;)

    [​IMG]
     
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    Sue, you miss the point. I LOVE my country. I am grateful for the heritage passed down to us by our forefathers. THAT IS PRECISELY WHY I CAN'T STAND BY SILENTLY WHILE POLITICIANS SELL IT OFF TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER, OR WORSE YET MAKE EXCUSES FOR THEM AND COVER UP THEIR DEEDS JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE IN "MY PARTY". Now THAT'S what I call ungrateful.
     
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    I think this is incorrect. I received the following in an email today:

    "On June 4th, the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act (H.R. 760) passed the House - one of the final steps necessary to become law.

    So why, after almost two months, is this bill still waiting to be signed into law?

    The bill must be agreed upon in a joint bi-partisan committee representing both the U.S. House and Senate. This joint committee has NOT even been assigned yet!

    This battle is not over!"
     

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