President Romney

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Do you believe Michael Moore is right?

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  1. Revmitchell

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    Michael Moore is quoted as saying "I think people should start to practice the words President Romney."

    Do you believe Moore is right?
     
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    I just can't see them getting the numbers. I suspect Romney/Ryan will carry more states, but can't see the electoral votes working our unless R&R carry every state leaning their way and every state in question.

    This should have been an easy GOP win and they had plenty of folks who could have pulled it off.

    Of course, that is based on right now - that could still change by November.
     
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    If the election were held today, Obama would win by a small margin. However, the election is eight weeks. It depends on what happens, and who puts out the nastiest campaign ads. I put no stock in anything Micahael Moore says.
     
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    IMHO a Chris Christie/Condy Rice ticket would have been more appealing!!
     
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    They say that even a broken clock is right twice a day... this is proof. Moore ought to count this day as amazing when for the first time in years, he was right.

    There is so much power in a sitting president that it takes alot to unseat him. It all depends on the next few weeks and how desperate the democrats and President Obama are to keep, retain and expand their power.
     
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    I've been saying it for over a year...Romney is a terrible candidate who will get beat in November.

    The irony here is that this is completely a winnable for Republicans, they've just nominated a terrible candidate. Had they gotten a better candidate, then President Obama would be really sweating it.
     
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    I don't know. Romney and Ryan are beginning to take the gloves off. We'll see if they learned their lesson from McCain's defeat.
     
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    All right, who would have been a better candidate?

    I think Obama is sweating it right now.
     
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    Ryan, Rubio, Huckabee, possibly Christie, maybe even Santorum.
     
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    Thinking there could be a real possibility of a landslide...
     
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    For which side????
     
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    Of those names, I will say that possibly Christie might have a chance. The country is looking for solutions to economic problems. Christie has a track record in New Jersey of turning around that state's finances. His spontaneous and sometimes gruff manner would contrast nicely with Obama's plodding, planned rhetoric.

    Rubio will be a factor in the future but for now does not really have a track record of accomplishments. Huckabee wouldn't have a chance. While I personally liked Santorum, I don't think he would be able to bring in the moderates and undecided voters.

    Ryan would have been a decent choice, but then he'd have to go with an older VP candidate. Who would that have been?

    The more I think about it, the more I think Romney is the right guy at the right time for America. They need a guy with a history of turning around failing enterprises and Romney has that history with the Olympics, numerous companies he's turned around while at Bain Capital, and even his record in Massachusetts. One more gigantic advantage for Romney--he can raise the money necessary to compete in a presidential race. This is probably too often overlooked by Romney critics within his own party.
     
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    :laugh: Land slides are when what's been up and is unstable comes down and a new foundation is formed. In this case back to the principles that made this country great. Still don't know??? :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    There were perhaps three or four others who would have been better candidates.

    • Chris Christie is the obvious lead. When he decided not to get into the race is when the RNC lost the White House.
    • Bobby Jindal would have been the ideal candidate but stayed out of the race.
    • Kay Bailey Hutchinson. She would never have considered it because she's better than all this idiocy, but she's a beast of a candidate who is articulate and reasonable.
    • The fourth guy, who is beyond a moderate Republican but would have swept up huge support, is Michael Bloomberg. We've not seen how fast he would have garnered consensus.

    Santorum would have been a greater disaster than Romney. Rubio doesn't have the experience (of course neither did then Senator Obama.) Huckabee is interesting, he might have had a better chance than the others. However his Foxnews stuff would have been a problem of perception.

    Of course I still think if Condalisa Rice had gotten into the race, or gotten the VP ticket, this might be different. Man, if the RNC had nominated her for the top of the ticket and Paul Ryan as VP this would be completely different.

    The issue major issue for the RNC is perception right now. They can't offer their side of the argument (littler government, better business environment, etc) because they can't get over the perception. If they had Colin Powell stand up instead of Eastwood that would have been huge...heck, if they had a soldier with a Congressional Medal of Honor walk out on stage and talk for five minutes instead of Eastwood that would have been huge. But this is the trouble of the RNC. They're stuck in their system and perception.

    I doubt it, though he is watching Romney. Did you catch the major media coup that Romney pulled yesterday? As soon as the convention was over he jumped a plane for a surprise visit to Louisiana and hurricane affected towns in the area? The Obama camp had to scrap all their events and head into town after Romney. Huge coup.

    That said I don't think he's as worried as some hope. MSNBC and CNN have been trying to call the election since May. The electoral maps are a daily excursion and they've been hedging their bets. President Obama is looking at the polling (we'll see good polls after the weekend) and seeing Romney didn't get a 5-7 point bounce. That is a good thing.

    However, if Romney can hit the talking points: economy, jobs, unemployment, gas prices, strategic vision, energy policy, traditional marriage, traditional values, anti-abortion, etc he can do damage to President Obama's hold on undecideds. I'm just glad I don't live in a battleground state.

    If Romney were to fly out for a day and meet with troops in Afghanistan and Iraq he'd make big headlines...especially while President Obama is prattling on at the convention. (This is totally on the table since the President didn't take the week off but was actively campaigning during the RNC convention which is an unwritten no-no.)

    I don't think Romney has the stuff. He's too establishment, too rich, too Republican. He has tied up the evangelical base though. I don't see him winning.
     
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    Yes, that was an awesome move by Romney's team. BTW, last I'd heard Obama is not going to visit Louisiana until Monday. And there is nothing on his schedule to prevent him going there sooner. Bush Sr. got excoriated for waiting several days before visiting the aftermath of hurricane Andrew in 1992. I understand Isaac wasn't as severe but where are the critics now?

    I don't think Obama will get a 5-7 point bounce either. There simply aren't as many undecideds as in past years.

    Yes, yes, and yes! I second your statement about not wanting to live in a battleground state.

    Great idea.

    I predict Romney will use one of Reagan's tactics with "are you better off now than you were four years ago."
     
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    I just don't get why the Romney campaign doesn't show two videos:

    1. the clip of then candidate-Obama stating that if things aren't better in 4 years the public should fire him. Just run it with a list of leading economic indicators and play it in all their media buys.

    2. A running video of promises made, promises broken. Just line up actual clips from President Obama's first campaign where he promised major things that didn't happen.

    I just don't get why campaigns don't default to easy things. Bill Clinton got it when he was running against Bush Sr.
     
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    Romney got a 6 point bounce and Bloomberg could not get elected if his life depended on it. He nothing but a Rino and a far left wing liberal at that.
     
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    I'm sure we will see commercials with these elements in them.
     
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    Buddy, we should be celebrating the right of EARNING prosperity in this great country which roots has enabled us to become the prosperous country we are, not apologizing for it!

    :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Rev Mitchell, you did not read between the lines. What he is saying is code for "get lots of soap for your mouth"...
     

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