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Pro-Lifer Attacked with Club

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by leesw, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. leesw

    leesw Member

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    Pro-Lifer Attacked with Club, Threatened with Arrest During Clinton Protest
    Video shows angry attack followed by police violation of civil rights

    FORT MADISON, Iowa, Dec. 8 /Christian Newswire/ -- Pro-lifers with graphic signs were attacked by a man wielding a club during a protest at a Hillary Clinton campaign stop in Fort Madison, Iowa, on Friday, yet responding police threatened to arrest the pro-lifers if they did not immediately leave the public sidewalk. The incident was captured on video.
    Police were parked across the street from where Dan Holman of Missionaries to the Pre-Born was standing on a public sidewalk on December 7, when a man in a pickup truck got out of his vehicle and approached Holman with a club, shouting at him to get off his property. Holman was attacked and struck with the club.

    "The man continued to try and assault me in the presence of three Fort Madison police officers," Holman told Operation Rescue. "Rather than arresting the attacker the police threatened to arrest me! The police acknowledged that I was on a public right of way but said our presence posed a traffic hazard."

    Police told Holman that if he wanted charges pressed against the man with the club, he would have to go to the police station and fill out a report. Holman complied with the order to leave under threat of arrest, and later filed a complaint against his attacker, identified as Jim Mitchell. Holman is considering legal action against the Fort Madison Police.

    Holman's group was protesting Clinton, a radical supporter of abortion, in advance of the Iowa Caucuses, which will be held on January 3, 2008. He has protested Clinton at 32 of her Iowa appearances.

    "Police departments across the nation have shown a disturbing disregard for the First Amendment rights of abortion protesters in recent weeks," said Operation Rescue spokesperson Cheryl Sullenger. "We have a great deal of respect for the vast majority of police officers, who are decent people, trying to do a very difficult job. However, rogue officers who bully and falsely arrest peaceful protesters that are simply exercising a precious right in defense of innocent babies, are put on notice that they will be held legally accountable for their abusive behavior. We urge every police department to train their officers concerning First Amendment activity in order to bring an end to this kind of abuse."

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    Operation Rescue is one of the leading pro-life Christian activist organizations in the nation. Operation Rescue recently made headlines when it bought and closed an abortion clinic in Wichita, Kansas and has become the voice of the pro-life activist movement in America. Its activities are on the cutting edge of the abortion issue, taking direct action to restore legal personhood to the pre-born and stop abortion in obedience to biblical mandates.

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  2. Ed Edwards

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    If I were a cop I'd arrest the sign carrier for
    displaying an obscene picture in a public
    place. BTW, I am totally against abortion
    in almost every circumstance. I am also
    against displaying obscene pictures in
    public places.

    // Operation Rescue is one of the leading pro-life Christian
    activist organizations in the nation.//

    Protestants do their dance carrying the obscene signs but
    the Pope wrote the tune.
     
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  3. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    We should blame the need for the obscene picture not the carriers.
     
  4. Ivon Denosovich

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    Agreed, 2 Timothy2:1-4. It's issues such as this that remind me of why allowing the govt. to regulate "obscene" material is so dangerous.
     
  5. leesw

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    We should be more concerned about abortion than pictures of it. Some people aren't even aware of what actually happens in abortion and NEED to see it.

    This reminds me of a very important true story. It happened during the days of the civil rights movement. A woman's son was killed and mutilated by some KKK members. Everyone, including the funeral home, thought she would have a closed casket funeral for him. But she insisted that it be an open casket. A friend approached her and asked her to reconsider. She responsed, "People are going to see what they did to my boy!"

    That's what it took and the KKK was soon run out of that area. In terms abortion, they need to see what is being done to our children!
     
  6. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    I agree with your sentiments. However, they aren't "our" children. I don't buy into the "it takes a village" mentality of people like Hillary Clinton. The children aren't "ours" and they are not wards of the state, they are their parents' children and theirs alone.
     
  7. leesw

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    So is it then okay to abuse those children? Because if we are to have a total hands off approach as you seem to suggest, then we shouldn't feel any responsibility whatsoever for the safety of anyone else's children but our own. Something tells me that God expects more of us than that.
     
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    Didn't I say that I agreed with your sentiments? Therefore, why did you write something as absurd as the statement quoted above?

    Your children aren't mine. You are responsible for them, not me. Or do you think that I have the right to come into your house and tell you what you should feed your children and how you should clothe them and how you should teach them about life? No, I didn't think that you did.

    We can be against child abuse without giving into the Nanny State ideas of people like Hillary Clinton.
     
  9. leesw

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    Then what were you disagreeing with me on? Is thinking abortion should be outlawed, like Mike Huckabee does, me wanting the State to be a Nanny?
     
  10. KenH

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    My disagreement was in your claiming that other people's children are "ours". I was attempting to help you watch how you write so that your language does not give credence to the policies of people like Hillary Clinton.

    And I think that abortion should be outlawed, too, just like Ron Paul does.
     
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