Psalms 51:5

HP: Says who? DHK's philosophy? Well I believe your philosophy is in error.

 

HP: Excellent question by the way. :thumbs:
Some gifts I might give with no conditions whatsoever. Other I might give with clearly stated conditions, such as a prisoner might receive when being granted a pardon (ring a bell?) Some might be granted with conditions not only in receiving a gift, but also must keep other conditions subsequent to the initial gift to retain such freedom. A pardon is once again an excellent example of such a gift. I believe a pardon is about the closest thing to a picture of salvation in this present world, and for that reason I use it as an illustration so often. It releases us from the stains of sins that are past ( Ro 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; ) while still requiring subsequent obedience to make our eternal home certain. " Joh 8:31 ¶ Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;" Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

There are many more passages but having listed them many times I will stop with these two.

 

HP: We are born with a proclivity to sin that is indeed part of our nature, our physical makeup as infants, but in the infant and child stage it is not sin but rather is an influence or proclivity that will lead to sin once reaching an age of accountability and becoming a moral agent. Only as one yields to this proclivity or nature subsequent to to an age of moral accountability can sin be predicated of ones formed intents.

Now as far as a nature that in reality has the true flair of sin, it starts at the age of accountability or whenever subsequent that age one first sins. Technically sin is only properly predicated of ‘ones nature’ when it is in reference to sin developed and persisted in subsequent to the age of accountability.

 

HP:I believe such an age is indeed allude to in Scripture, and God certainly engrained that concept in the minds of reasonable persons, including the Jews.

Absolutely we all develop sinful natures as sinners subsequent to the age of accountability.

Did I say proclivity?:smilewinkgrin:

 

Call me the eternal optimist, but I expect DHK to be able, in time, to far excel my meager attempts at explaining even myself and my poorly worded theological positions. He most likely will not even have to mention the word 'proclivity' to do it. :thumbsup::smilewinkgrin:

 

Thank you Amy. Hopefully though not my only friend:smilewinkgrin:

If I do not get off this computer, it may be my only friend.:tonofbricks: