Punctuation Aberration

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  1. Deacon

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    The Apostle Paul has been accused of ignoring proper English grammatical rules with his run on sentences.

    I’m reading through Zechariah and came across an instance of multiple punctuation marks at the end of a sentence.

    Zechariah 1:6 NAS

    Can you find any cases of run-on punctuation marks in ANY version that you have?

    Rob
     
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    um, 2 things, Rob:

    1. did Paul write in English? how cld he ignore rules of a language he wasn't writing in? :smilewinkgrin:

    2. were those run-on sentences in the example u gave? nested quotes don't count as run-ons, do they?
     
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    Well duh!

    U ignor E''lish grmmer 2, bu' U shud no bedder.
    I'ts snow hared to reed yr pots.
    Hv'e to sa thta eye donut us'ly spnd the tmie.
    Evn tho the tohts n iedas may b intrestin.

    ANY run-on puntuation in ANY version (even in the original Greek or Hebrew ;) ) would count in this particular thread.

    Rob
     
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    Zach 1-6 (NAS):

    1 In the eighth month of the second year of Darius, R1 the word of the LORD came to Zechariah R2 the prophet, the son of Berechiah, the son of Iddo R3 saying,
    2 "The LORD was very angry R4 with your fathers.
    3 "Therefore say to them, 'Thus says the LORD of hosts, " R5 Return to Me," declares the LORD of hosts, "that I may return to you," says the LORD of hosts.
    4 "Do not be like R6 your fathers, to whom the former R7 prophets proclaimed, saying, 'Thus says the LORD of hosts, " R8 Return now from your evil ways and from your evil deeds.'" But they did not R9 listen or give heed to Me," declares the LORD.
    5 "Your fathers, R10 where are they? And the prophets, R11 do they live forever?
    6 "But did not My words and My statutes,
    which I commanded My servants the prophets,
    overtake R12 your fathers? Then they repented and said,
    ' R13 As the LORD of hosts purposed to do to us in accordance
    with our ways and our deeds, so He has dealt with us.' ' " "

    Uh, Zacheriah is quoting the LORD who is quoting the Fathers
    who are quoting the former prophets -- all four levels of quotation are
    construed by the translators of the NAS as ending in verse six.

    The NAS is much easier to follow here than is the KJVs are.
     
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    Did Ed write, “As the LORD of hosts purposed to do to us in accordance
    with our ways and our deeds, so He has dealt with us.' ' “”?!
    :laugh:

    Rob
     
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    Deacon asked:

    Can you find any cases of run-on punctuation marks in ANY version that you have?

    In the King James Version, the pilcrows, aka paragraph marks (¶), stop after Acts 20. I guess that technically that makes the remainder of the New Testament a run-on paragraph.

    Also at 1 Cor. 16:22, there appears to be a period missing after "Anathema," making the verse a bona fide run-on sentence.
     
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    Deacon: //Did Ed write, “As the LORD of hosts purposed
    to do to us in accordance
    with our ways and our deeds, so He has dealt with us.' ' “”?! //

    No, i cut & pasted from Crosswalk.com
    Crosswalk.com has ' ' " "
    the printed copy i have says ' " ' "
    IMHO the printed copy is correct.

    Reminds me of maps. Each maker of State road maps
    has one known ERROR for each state. So if someone
    copies their map without permission, the error will
    show it off. My first wife lived in Fox Oklahoma
    which had a post office then just north of Pike City.
    Pike City didn't have a postoffice even as 'late' as 1963.
    But one company's map showed Pike City two
    miles north of Fox - Pike City is two miles south
    of Fox -- catchy error, eh?
    Maybe we are looking at the copyright protection in
    the NAS?


    The O.P. only had one verse, so the only match we
    can find is what the repenting fathers said:

    ‘As the LORD of hosts purposed
    to do to us in accordance with our ways and our deeds,
    so He has dealt with us.’


    The verses before six (not shown in the OP) contain
    mroe information about what is going on here.
    Here is the last of the things that God said (bolded)
    including what the repenting fathers said (bolded & italics):

    4D declares the LORD.
    5 "Your fathers, where are they? And the prophets, do they
    live forever?
    6 "But did not My words and My statutes,
    which I commanded My servants the prophets,
    overtake your fathers? Then they repented and said,
    ' As the LORD of hosts purposed to do to us in accordance
    with our ways and our deeds, so He has dealt with us.'
    "


    Note that what God says is started in verse 5, the quotes (")
    starting verse 6 show that the quote of what God said
    is continued.

    (i'm stopping now as there is only two special categories
    of printing that will show up. The quotes are FOUR DEEP
    here)
     
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