Pyramid Structure of Genesis 1, 2 and 3

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    Genesis 1,

    Days:-
    |.………1…|2……….…|3……………|4……………|5…………|…….…6…|
    1…….8a…|8b….…12|13…..…18|19…….22|23…..25|26……2:1
    --Text


    Genesis 2, Text and Days:-
    |4b………6|……………………………………………………………|7……….7|
    |...........|8………14|……………………………………………|15……18|
    \.....................................|19b……….|19a……|19c….25|
    |…….1…….|…….2…….|……………|…….4…….|……5……|……6……|
    Genesis 3:-............................................... |……7……|



    Genesis 3, Text Pyramid:-

    |......................................|19b……….|19a……|19c….25|
    |............|8………14|……………………………………………|15……18|
    |4b………6|…………………………………………………………..|7……….7|
    |…….1…….|…….2…….|……………|…….4…….|……5……|……6……|



    Days of Genesis 1, 2 and 3, Pyramid:

    Genesis 3
    |........................................................... |..... 7.....|
    |......1.... |.....2.... |..........Genesis 2.........|..... 6......|
    |.…….…1…|2……….…|3………….|4…………|5…………|…….…..6…|
    1……..8a…|8b….…12|13……18|19……22|23……25|26.....2:1…|
    It was evening and it was morning the ... Genesis 1

     
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    The Sabbath was the day of man's fall into sin.
     
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    Not even remotely true
     
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    I made several mistakes while I was in a hurry with the English 'version' of my standpoint, so I'll post the Afrikaans tables - they are correct. From there one may take the discussion further.
     
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    Dae van Genesis 1, 2 en 3


    Genesis 1, Dae:-
    |.………1…|2……….…|3……………|4……………|5…………|…….…6…|
    1…….8a…|8b……12|13…..…18|19…….22|23…..25|26……2:1
    en teksplase “Dit was aand en dit was môre die ...”
    Sewende Dag: 2:2-3 / 4a




    Genesis 2, Teks en Dae:-
    |4b………6|………………………………………………………..|7……….7|
    |…………….|8………14|………………………………………..|15……18|
    |.……………………………….…………|19b………|19a
    ……|19c….25|
    |…….1……|…….2…….|……..……|…….4……|……5…..|……6
    …….|


    Genesis 3:- Sesde Dag: ………………………………….|….1-7….|
    .................Sewende Dag.……………………………|..8-24..|




    Genesis 2, 3 – Piramiede:-
    ......................Sewende Dag………………………….|3: 8-24|
    ………………….…………………………………………………………| 3: 1-7 |
    ...................................... |19b……….|19a……|19c….25|
    ……………..|8………14|……………………………………………|15……18|
    |4b………6|…………………………………………………………..|7……….7|
    |…….1……|…….2…….|…………..|…….4…….|……5…….|……6……|
     
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    As is obvious, it was a big mistake saying the fall happened on the Sabbath. You know my standpoint from past discussions. I say the fall happened on the sixth day - the day of the creation of man: the same day. Then the Text UNINTERRUPTEDLY goes on to tell how God called for man in the garden - Afrikaans - "In the evening breeze", English, "cooel of day" (from, to deilinon / ruach).

    Scriptures - I don't care whatsoever what anybody whosoever says - Scriptures, make NO break between the Sixth and Seventh Days; Scriptures gives NO 'history' other than man's creation and fall in paradise. God 'rested' the Seventh Day in that He made provision for sin on it, and on the Seventh Day, conquered over sin and death through the Lamb - symbolically through the blood God took for life there and then - not long afterwards.
     
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    My standpoint is built upon a vertical following-up of the three 'stories' of Genesis 1 to 3; I don't arranged them linearly. The repeated references to the SAME days of the ONE creation in the three chapters are undeniable. Their sequence is the very same of Genesis one.

    That's the one 'issue'.

    But of interest also is the devision of the days of 'creation-week' - or the first six specifically, whereby the Sixth Day belonged to the creation of man only, and wasn't 'shared with the creation of animals (created on the Fifthe Day).
     
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    Sorry, the table collapsed!
     
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    And did you come up with this yourself, is it supported by theologians?
     
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    Why do you ask such a worthless question. I do! But their support is nothing! It is what the Bible teaches that matters. I refuse to answer your question!
     
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    There is not one particle of Scripture that supports this conjecture!

    Ed
     
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    A "house of cards" will usually collapse of its own weight, in the slightest breeze.

    Ladies and Gentlemen, I offer Exhibit "A". :rolleyes:

    Ed
     
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    There is also not one particle of Scripture to suggest the fall of man happened "on the sixth day - the day of the creation of man:".

    We simply are not told when this did occur, only that it did occur, and sometime after Adam and Eve were around.

    Conjecture is still conjecture, and it makes little difference whether it is yours, mine, or another's. That does not change its nature.

    Ed.
     
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    that's what I said on page 1
     
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    I saw that afterwards, but I had responded as I came to the posts, so had not gotten as far as your response, at that time.

    Ed
     
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    Hummm, your attitude answers for you.
     
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    Ed Sutton:
    "There is also not one particle of Scripture to suggest the fall of man happened "on the sixth day - the day of the creation of man:".

    We simply are not told when this did occur, only that it did occur, and sometime after Adam and Eve were around.

    Conjecture is still conjecture, and it makes little difference whether it is yours, mine, or another's. That does not change its nature."

    GE
    My dear friend Ed Sutton, I return your question with gratitude, You, my friend or foe it matters not, give me, 'one particle of Scripture to suggest', the fall of man happened any time after, "on the sixth day - the day of the creation of man".

    Next, 'one particle of Scripture to suggest' that, or why, "We simply are not told when this did occur"

    since especially, you propose the indubatable notion, "only that it did occur, and sometime after Adam and Eve were around".

    Waht would make the 'sometime after' another day or year or century 'later'?

    'My' idea is to show how the whole Bible, Genesis 1-3 included, is the story of Redemption; and not even in purpose of creation firstly or independently



    We simply are not told when this did occur, only that it did occur, and sometime after Adam and Eve were around, and that 'given', is the story of the creation of the Sixth and Seventh Days.
     
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    But the nexus of both your and BobRyan's 'argument', is tradition - which tradition the nexus of is 'free-will' error: Arminianism, namely IMPROVEMENT on God's work 'very well done'. In other words, Adam first had to 'develop' into a 'mature' being before he could be able 'to make decision'. Now I don't know if I'm correct, but I thought you were a free-grace man, and not a 'free-will' man. Your standpoint here, reveals perhaps more than you bargained for.
     
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    Having given you then the first three chapters of Scriptures, I am the only one who could present that little bit necessary and totally ample Scripture, and you have left yourself / ves in the lurch without any provision. You get out of the ditch by yourself: You evidently should have the necessary equipment, since Adam your forebear was equiped to have made the right decision if only he tried hard enough.
     

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