Question about REVELATION 20:7-10 !!!

Umm, Umm, Go study some more you ain't got it yet. There is a definite difference between Tribulation, and Wrath.

 

I never mention the tribulation here -- just quote the text of scripture and observe the inconvenient details

 

He who believes in Jesus has gone out of spiritual, 'second death'-death, into everlasting, (first) resurrection-life. "He shall not see death" - the 'second death', they "shall not enter judgement". Two oaths of Jesus Christ. For such the resurrection of the flesh is but the continuing of ETERNAL life. A 'second resurrection' is an impossibility for those whom Christ has saved; it would belie His gift of eternal life.

A second resurrection would belie the death the damned must die after they will have died their first or temporary death.

So for all there is just one resurrection, while for the damned two deaths await them.

By the way: Why do you millennialists explain everything as symbolic in Revelation, but take 'The Thousand Years' for literal?

 

Bad question. Most of the millennialists I know (recall i've been discussing
these matters on bulletin boards alone for 22 years) consider
many other things in Revelation as being literal. So the question
has a bad premesis: "millennialists explain everything as
symbolic in Revelation".

 

There is a problem with Post #22, anyone have a comment on this.

 

Maybe a bad question; your answer is bad too - you haven't given an answer to the question why the thousand years should be taken for literal?

 

BobRyan:
"the "dead in Christ" are raised in the first resurrection - the one of Rev 20:4-5 and 1Thess 4."


GE:
Fully agreed! It's a spiritual resurrection the gift of ETERNAL life. ONLY the 'dead in Christ' receive this grace - a reality as sure as God's Word. The wicked all, living and dead, must wait until the 1000 years are over, before they are raised in the flesh, together with the saved, and all together, will receive eternal reward.

That ENDS the 1000 years.

BR:

"That starts the 1000 years."
"The REST ARE KILLED" speaking of the wicked alive in Rev 19 at the second coming. The "REST of the dead did NOT come to life until AFTER the 1000 years were completed" Rev 20:5."

GE:

This is a contradiction. "At the second coming", you say, then you switch to, "after the 1000 years" (in your reckoning after the second coming). The wicked "come to life" ONLY to be obliterated again, for ever, remember.

Revelation the nineteenth chapter unequivocally speaks of Jesus "the Word of God's", Second Coming ---NOT of a 'third'! And it describes the general resurrection at the end of our present, Christian, era - the era of the rule of the Word of God through faith.

BR:

"So ONCE the 1000 years is ended - the wicked are all raised and these are those whom Satan leads to make one last stands against God and His Holy City."

GE:
Agreed upon, fully! It will be soon, we believe and place our hope upon! (And God is not going to deal with sin again, He promised!)

 

GE:
I don't find anything in there that's not a problem!

 

You Dont!?. How about explaining it then.

 

"That starts the 1000 years."
"The REST ARE KILLED" speaking of the wicked alive in Rev 19 at the second coming. The "REST of the dead did NOT come to life until AFTER the 1000 years were completed" Rev 20:5."

Rev 19 at the second coming you have "the REST KILLED" by the sword that comes from His mouth. All the wicked slain -- and as we saw in 1Thess 4 the living righteous AND the "dead in Christ" raised and raptured up to heaven to be WITH Christ "that "where He is there WE may be also".

That leaves nothing here on earth.

Then I point out in Rev 4 and 5 that the saints are raised in the FIRST resurrection just as we saw in 1thess 4 -- but the REST of the DEAD (which includes not only the dead wicked from all of time but also the wicked just slain in Rev 19 the previous chapter) do NOT come to life UNTIL AFTER the 1000 years as been completed.

Then we see the New Jerusalem coming down out of heaven - that takes place AFTER the 1000 years are completed. It is not the 3rd coming since on earth there are no saints - all the saints are ALREADY with Christ.

in Christ,

Bob

 

Why shouldn't the 1000 years be taken for literal. And where do you think the Bible says there will be no one left on the earth, at Christs second coming. In fact where does the Bible say there will be no one left on earth at any time.

 

Amen, Brother Samuel Owen.

There is also this interesting scripture where the
Greek 'aeon, aeon' is translated 'world without end':

Eph 3:21 (KJV1611 Edition):
Unto him be glory in the Church by Christ Iesus,
throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

Will there then be an empty world time when
Messiah Jesus is NOT given glory on the earth?