Question about the term "Lucifer"

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by JonC δοῦλος, Dec 18, 2006.

  1. JonC

    JonC
    Expand Collapse
    Lifelong Disciple
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2001
    Messages:
    6,951
    Likes Received:
    370
    I've seen threads addressing this, but I was not too clear on the matter.

    From my reading, I feel that Lucifer is a name referring to an exalted place or state. I think that it illustrates the fall of the Babylon king out of pride, can allude to the fall of Satan, and the exalted state of Christ.

    Lucifer occurs in the KJV by a translation of the (Hebrew heilel ben-schahar) Greek word “herosphorus” into Latin. If I’m not mistaken, it was introduced in the 5th century translation by Jerome. Lucifer is also found as the name for the “morning star” in Roman literature (not referring to Satan).

    I think that it would be safe to say that “Lucifer” is a proper name for Satan only in Christian tradition. I am looking for comments and opinions about the accepting the term as an exalted state.
     
  2. Joseph_Botwinick

    Joseph_Botwinick
    Expand Collapse
    <img src=/532.jpg>Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2000
    Messages:
    17,527
    Likes Received:
    0
    You are correct.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  3. Aaron

    Aaron
    Expand Collapse
    Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2000
    Messages:
    15,652
    Likes Received:
    225
    John Calvin agrees:
     
  4. Logos1560

    Logos1560
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2004
    Messages:
    3,127
    Likes Received:
    2
  5. LeBuick

    LeBuick
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2006
    Messages:
    11,537
    Likes Received:
    0
    Technically, Lucifer was the name of the arch angel but when he fell he became Satan which is the deciever. So I submit to you that Lucifer and Satan are one in the same.

    Here is Lucifer falling from heaven;

    Isaiah 14:12-15 12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
    13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
    14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
    15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

    Here is proof this same Lucifer was in Eden;

    Ezekiel 28:13-15 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
    14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
    15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

    Now either Lucifer is Satan or Satan was also in heaven, fell to the earth and brought angels with him;

    Revelation 12:9 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
     
  6. JonC

    JonC
    Expand Collapse
    Lifelong Disciple
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2001
    Messages:
    6,951
    Likes Received:
    370
    Thank you all for your input.

    John
     

Share This Page

Loading...