First, let me ask you not to misread or read anything into these questions. Secondly, let me say that I would never totally and completely "give up" on a teenager. As long as they're breathing, God can do a work in their life. My questions are: Is there a point when you realize that your investment of time, energy, and resources in your teen(s) is not yielding the return that you feel that it should? The teen is showing no signs of spiritual growth. Have you ever felt like you have spent too much time on such teenagers to the detriment of teens who would have better responded? Teens that are more hungry to grow closer to the Lord? If so, what are some of the determining factors that would cause you to shift your focus of attention to the more responsive teen(s)? What do you do now to keep the door open for the teens that have no spiritual desire?