Ramifications Of The Veterans Disarmament Act

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  1. poncho

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    Q&A On The Veterans Disarmament Act
    -- How the new law will affect you and where we go from here


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    Tuesday, January 8, 2008

    As most Americans were preparing for the Christmas holidays last month, the U.S. Congress pulled another fast one when only few people were watching.

    It was December 19. Most Congressmen had left town and were either at the airport or in the air returning home. They weren't in Washington, DC, because their party leadership had told them that all the major votes were over... that the only legislative business left related to non-controversial issues, such as when Congress would return from Christmas break, etc.
    But it was then, with most of the Congress gone, that the House and Senate passed the Veterans Disarmament Act without a recorded vote. It was a huge deja vu, as this was the method that a previous Democratic Congress used -- together with compliant Republicans -- to pass the original Brady Law in 1993.


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  2. JustChristian

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    Why is this being called the Veterens Disarmament Act? It seems to apply equally to non-veterans. The author seems to be concerned that while it doesn't seem to apply to Alzheimers now it might be extended to them in the future. Do anybody really support this group having firearms? I don't. Both my mother and aunt who are in their 90's have moderate to severe Alzheimers. I wouldn't want them to have a gun nor would I want any of the patients in their nursing facility to have one.

    The author say that this is a "Democratic" bill and then lists 3 Dem. and 3 Repub. that sponsor it. Sounds pretty bi-partisan to me. Wouldn't a law like this have prevented the Va. Tech. murders?

    I suppose the bottom line is whether someone with a serious psychiatric disorder should possess firearms or am I misunderstanding this bill.
     
  3. Ed Edwards

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    I can get no information out of the site noted
    in the OP. All I get is a strong feeling that
    Gun Owners of America


    should hire some literate spokespersons :type:

    Ed's short 'guns' comments.

    In 1973 cancer came to my Mother's house.
    My Dad died in 1975. My dad was an active
    policeman. He caught his lung cancer early.
    However, the source, somewhere in the scar
    tissues of the left side of his chest (where most
    of us have a left lung, but he had nothing --
    the left side of his whole body was damaged
    by the exploded bone fragments of the Sargent who died
    next to him in a Germany by an artillery shell).
    While arms can hurt you, a hand gun can't blow
    a cancer away. Yes, my Dad was a member of some
    Gun organizations, but he died of cancer none the less.

    In 1999 cancer came to my house. I had handguns and
    know how to use them and even decided the Christian thing
    to do would be to blow away anybody in my house
    bent on harming my family with a handgun. I'd pray
    for their soul after I blow them away.
    A hand gun can't blow a cancer away. The last month
    of 1999 my first wife died of Liver Cancer.

    I still keep hand guns around my house.
    I still plan to blow away those who I need to blow away.
    But if cancer comes, it will do no good.
     
  4. poncho

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    Can't get no information huh?

    I'll admit it took me all of 10 seconds to find more information (long time and hard work) but here it is...

    http://www.gunowners.org/netb.htm
     
  5. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you for your research trying to convince me of something.
    I am convinced that I was 112% correct.
    I can recognize low-performance pseudo-propaganda.;
    I may be an old geezer but i am yet to be a stupid geezer.
     
  6. Ed Edwards

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    //Can't get no information huh?//

    You totally misunderstood me.
    There was no information at that site to recover.
    There was a lot of stuff there alright, but not
    of it would pass the written portion of 8th Grade English.


    Count me as one who is ready to levy distain
    toward gun organizations, especially ones who
    pay somebody to write such drivil.

    BTW, people who think they need to go shoot me
    should realize I SHOOT FIRST!
    (I'll pray for you later)
    If you are part of a known police or investagative
    organizaion, come with identification I can see from
    my house. That stuff with acronyms I'm not familiar
    with on the back of the uniform can get you killed
    around my house.
     
  7. poncho

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    I often do misunderstand you Ed. I recognize the words alright but have so far been unable to crack the code you speak in. :smilewinkgrin:

    You aren't being a very good citizen either btw. Good citizens lay down and submit to tyrants and usurpers. You should know that by now.
     
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  8. MustardSeed

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    I think that the fact that legislation was slipped in in the manner it was detracts from any practical value the bill might have had.
     
  9. North Carolina Tentmaker

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    This is being called the Veterens Disarmament Bill by the 2nd amendment groups because of the high rates of ptsd (post traumatic stress disorder) among veterans. Being diagnosed with this would disqualify you from gun ownership under this bill, but so could something as simple as ADHD or depresion. 140,000 veterans have been diagnosed with PTSD. These veterans could loose their 2nd amendment rights under this bill. The long term affect could be even more dramatic as veterans could become afraid to seek treatment for PTSD because they are afraid of loosing their guns.

    As far as the VA Tech shooting. No this law would not have prevented it. It was already against several laws for that student to have the weapons he did and have them on campus. Why would we think one more law would have helped. The only thing that could have prevented the Va Tech shooting would have been the abolishment of the unconstitutional 'gun free' zones like cover the school. Then the shooter would have probably never tried what he did, but even if he had, a gun carrying student or staff member could have ended it quickly. The solution is not fewer guns but more guns in the right hands.

    Real gun control means hitting what you shoot at. :)
     
  10. TC

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    Right on brother. :thumbsup:
     

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