RCC and Baptist Pastor agree on origin of Sabbath change

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  1. BobRyan

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    As R.C Sproul and even the Baptist Confession of Faith proves the 4th commandment as given by God in the actual Bible - points to Saturday.

    NONE of those authors goes around arguing that the Israel at Sinai - were all "keeping Sunday".

    They all admit that the Bible Sabbath is the 7th day - Saturday and Sunday is the FIRST day of the week. Impossible to miss.

    But beyond this - a recent video shows a Baptist Pastor agreeing with the Catholic Church claim that the 4th Commandment has been changed by man - and yet also agreeing with the Baptist Confession of Faith - not only about the change of the 4th commandment - but also the fact that the TEN commandments were given to mankind in Eden.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO8kVXUQ3ZU


    So also does the Baptist Confession of Faith agree with this idea that the Bible Sabbath as given by God is not Sunday.

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    22.7 As it is the law of nature that a portion of time by God's appointment should be set apart for the worship of God, so in his Word he has given a positive, moral, and perpetual commandment, binding all people in all ages. In particular he has appointed one day in seven as a Sabbath to be kept holy to him.1 From the beginning of the world to the resurrection of Christ this was the last day of the week, but from the resurrection of Christ it was changed to the first day of the week which is called the Lord's Day. This is to be continued to the end of the world as the Christian Sabbath, the observation of the last day of the week being abolished.2
    (1) Gen 2:3; Exo 20:8-11; Mar 2:27-28; Rev 1:10
    (2) Joh 20:1; Act 2:1; 20:7; 1Co 16:1; Rev 1:10; Col 2:16-17
    They admit that a CHANGE was made in what the BIBLE states to be the Sabbath day - Saturday. Almost every Baptist on this board today - knows that the Bible Sabbath is Saturday.

    The Change was done via man-made tradition NOT a "Commandment" in either NT or OT to "make the change of God's Law".

    Rather we have Mark 7 flatly forbidding man-made-traditions the privilege of editing the Law of God.


    Each time you seek to make a point here - it is found to be half-true.

    Why do that as if you don't think I "will notice"???

    We both know that I will indeed notice and will point to the flaw in your argument.

    --- at the risk of repeating myself -- we do this "again" only this time with Spurgeon's own edit of the Baptist Confession of Faith and the fact that in the actual BIBLE the Sabbath is the SEVENTH day of the week - Saturday not the FIRST day of the week - SUNDAY.

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    As it is the law of nature that in general a proportion of time, by God's appointment, should be set apart for the worship of God, so He has given in His Word a positive, moral and perpetual commandment, binding upon all men, in all ages to this effect. He has particularly appointed one day in seven for a Sabbath to be kept holy for Him. From the beginning of the world to the resurrection of Christ this was the last day of the week, and from the resurrection of Christ it was changed to the first day of the week and called the Lord's Day. This is to be continued until the end of the world as the Christian Sabbath, the observation of the last day of the week having been abolished.


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    My guess is that if pastor Reggie also saw this next video giving RCC sources on the non-Bible "Change" to the Sabbath - he would feel somewhat confirmed in his idea that man-made tradition should not be allowed to replace the Word of God.

    The Catholic position on this topic appears to be something like this --

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrB21mc2fmI
     
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  2. BobRyan

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    So then both of them admit that a change was made - but in the case of the Baptist confession of faith - they claim that the LAW of God - though eternal and given in Eden - is apparently subject to "edit" (apparently by the traditions of man).

    But the Baptist pastor in that OP insists that while the Ten Commandments were given to all mankind even in the OT - (as even the Baptist Confession of Faith admits) - it is not right to change the Sabbath since God gave no command for doing it.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    makes you wonder---YAH said that if a man breaks 1--he is guilty of all

    I wonder since if they say YAH has abolished the 4th commandment--if that applies to their thinking also that since 1 law is abolished then they don't have to observe the rest ??
     
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    Agreed - this can be a slippery slope.
     

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