RE: Anyone seeing Star Wars: Attack of the Clones?

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  1. ATeenageChristian

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    I have given up on Science Fiction. I find it leads me AWAY from God. I would rather watch CLEAN movies(which are VERY hard to find nowadays mind you.) Star Wars: Episode II looks disgusting(meaning unclean jokes, and love.) Lately all movies have become that way it seems like. Anyone going to see the next prequal to the PHANTOM MENACE?

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    nullVERY HARD TO FIND

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    I will be at the midnight showing in May. It is the greatest series of movies ever made.

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    I have to admit I will be in line waiting for the next movie. Star Wars was such a huge part of my childhood. Saw that movie several times.

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    Oh baby I can't wait!
    Spiderman as well!

    Don't knock sci-fi some sci-fi include religious aspects as a base. What parts in the preview did you find disgusting? One good thing about the preview is no Jar Jar.

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    I find that they just talk about love to be disgusting. Jar Jar ruined Episode 1 IMO.
     
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Joseph Botwinick:
    I will be at the midnight showing in May. It is the greatest series of movies ever made.

    Joseph Botwinick
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    We have watched several times all of the Star Wars movies that are on video.
    They are very enjoyable. But just curious why you like them THAT much. I have had to explain just as much to my kids about false theology in them as more blatant examples.
    It seems to me that Star Wars has a very dualistic view of good and evil.

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    Star Wars is not a religion, it is a fantasy movie. There is no theology in it. There are some good teachings in it. But it should not be used to teach theology. If your kids are confused, then perhaps it would be best for them not to watch the movies. I never had any confusion about who the true God of the universe was because of Star Wars. I was always able to figure out that it was not real. I like the movie so much because it is the greatest series of science fiction movies (or any kind of movies) ever made. The stories are great, the effects are wonderful.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Joseph Botwinick:
    ......There is no theology in it. There are some good teachings in it. But it should not be used to teach theology. If your kids are confused, then perhaps it would be best for them not to watch the movies...........
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    I understand what you are saying, but disagree with you slightly. Every movie expresses some kind of world view. I do see a dualistic view of reality expressed in Star Wars.
    Blessedly, I don't have confused kids. Partly because we explain things to them. They have enjoyed Star Wars, The Lord of the Rings,and yes, Harry Potter.

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    I never said anything about a world view...only theology. There is a difference. You may want to apply this conversation more to Harry Potter as it actually seems to teach the theology of an actual religion whereas Star Wars is mere fantasy, nothing more, nothing less.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Joseph Botwinick:
    I never said anything about a world view...only theology. There is a difference. You may want to apply this conversation more to Harry Potter as it actually seems to teach the theology of an actual religion whereas Star Wars is mere fantasy, nothing more, nothing less.

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    http://www.exn.ca/starwars/taoism.cfm
    http://www.sbts.edu/mohler/fidelitas/starwars.html

    :D :D

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    Sorry,

    But I don't have much respect for anything that Mohler has to say because I don't think he is a Godly man. There are certain things that almost every religion in the world teaches, such as respect, not doing evil, etc...

    They are universal beliefs. They are part of a person's worldview. The force is a part of fantasy and if there is any similarities, they are simply coincidence. Nothing more, nothing less. This is Science Fiction, not religion.

    I notice though that you avoided addressing the fact that Harry Potter actually teaches theology of an actual religion. :D As far as I know, except for a few nuts in New Zealand, there is no Jedi Knight religion that is recognized. But, you can hardly blame Lucas for that as this was not his intent in creating the movies.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Joseph Botwinick:
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    I notice though that you avoided addressing the fact that Harry Potter actually teaches theology of an actual religion. :D As far as I know, except for a few nuts in New Zealand, there is no Jedi Knight religion that is recognized. But, you can hardly blame Lucas for that as this was not his intent in creating the movies.

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    Thanks for responding.
    Actually, I didn't mean to AVOID addressing Harry Potter and religion. It is just hard on these types of threaded discussions to not just go all over the place. Please note
    Ransom's current, excellent Harry Potter post in the General Discussion forum. The type of magic in Harry Potter is fairy tale stuff, not modern Wicca.

    According to one of the links I included, Lucas has used the Star Wars movies as a vehicle to express a blend of Taoism and dualism. The fact that this link said so does not make it so, but there are some things to be examined.

    My point is not that I can read bad Harry Potter because I found out that you are watching bad Star Wars.
    It is that we do have to examine things and not just make blanket assertions that Star Wars is absolutely great, period, and that no Christian can read Harry Potter. I am not saying that you personally have said the latter.

    Karen

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