Reading, Writing, and Sodomy in Richmond Public Education

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by lifeandliberty, Dec 6, 2005.

  1. lifeandliberty

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    The children of Richmond Virginia are all part of a grand experiment.

    There was a time when those in the education system were held to a high standard. An individual who lived a filthy double life would be thrown out as soon as his dirty deeds were made known. Not so today. Today, in our enlightened society, we just debate whether one who seeks to sodomize or to be sodomized by strangers, should remain as the Chairman of the School Board.

    The Richmond School Board has failed our children on so many levels. As our sons and daughters grapple with the important questions of life and seek to understand what is true and right, those who have been entrusted with their education play politics. Steve Johnson, the Chairman of the School Board, admits to posting his shirtless photo on a sodomite dating website.

    According to Jimmy Barrett of WRVA's Richmond's Morning News:

    The web site, "may be described...as a male dating site, but it's much more than that! This is not e-harmony.com ya'll! This site is GRAPHIC! Filled with graphic nude photographs and even more graphic descriptions of sexual preferences. These people aren't asking about favorite movies and food!They're not trying to find you a "soul mate." It's PORN pure and simple. Compared to everything else on the site, Johnson's photo was no big deal, barechested is all. We didn't get a chance to read about his preferences before the ad was withdrawn, not that we want to know. What we really want to know is what is going to happen next? Should a school board member be allowed to continue when they show this kind of judgement...Especially when their job is to help chart the future of public school children?"
    Richmond's Morning News

    Has Mr. Johnson been forced to resign from the School Board? Why is he still entrusted with the education of our children?

    As I said, our children are all a part of a grand experiment. The goal of this experiment is to see how far one can go with the education of young children without being constrained with such matters as morality, values, propriety, and virtue.

    The experiment has been successful in one point. This experiment has proven
    why homeschooling is such a good decision for parents who have concern for the well-being of their children.

    Dennis Green
    Life and Liberty Ministries

    Related links:

    Richmond School Board chairman under fire for posting on explicit site

    School Board chair admits Web post

    School board chairman admits posting photo on Web site
     
  2. Scott J

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    If education was still the province of churches and parents as it was at our nations founding... this would be moot.

    As it is, we are forced to fight each other to exercise a measure of control over others that government should have never had in the first place.

    We won't really win even if conservatives get to run the schools... since we have already assented to the false notion that the state has a legitimate right to indoctrinate and control our children.
     
  3. gb93433

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    Who elects the school board?

    When I taught high school seldom was a person from the community present.

    When was the last time you attended a school board meeting?
     
  4. Johnv

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    What I'd like to know is where did Mr. Johnson's actions in private life affect his duties as a Richmond School Board member, or affect policies that impact the students of the Richmond School District? If his service on the board up to now has been exemplory, then permit him to stay, and let the voters decide when his seat is up for reelection.
     
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    When he, as a person responsible parents instruct their children to respect and obey, exhibited moral character that may negatively influence the development of our children. They aren't "his" children... or the states... or yours. It is the parent's prerogative to determine what and who is the proper moral example for their children.
    If he lacks moral judgment and character then there is no way that his service is exemplary.

    BTW, if these parents could choose where their children attended school and how they were taught... if they weren't forced to fund schools that teach values and ideals contrary to their own... then they (we) would have no legitimate beef.

    As long as they are confiscating "my money" to fund the schools where they educate "my children", what the superintendent does and is morally... IS my business.
     
  6. Scott J

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    Who elects the school board?</font>[/QUOTE] What does that have to do with my point? Are you saying that 50.000000000000000001% should have absolute authority to force their values or lack there of down my throat?

    My wife or I attend almost all PTO meetings. The superintendent is almost always there and sometimes school board members.

    I don't. The superintendent and PTO have about more to do with school policy in our tiny school than the board does. The board basically approves the budget and hiring/raise decisions.

    I see the superintendent, principal, and teachers frequently. We are involved.

    Our school is an exception. It is in a very conservative and religious community. There are only about 270 kids K-12.

    We have lived in much larger school systems so I am not without experience concerning the OP.
     
  7. Bunyon

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    His private life, eh. What if he went to SE Asia and hooked up with a 12yo girl or boy, where it is not illegal. Would we still turn our heads and say its his private life?
     
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    I agree. The parents may do so at the next election.

    Thomas Jefferson lacked moral judgement, and his service was exemplary. Don't get me wrong, I'm not condoning Mr Johnson's behavior (or Mr Jefferson's, for that matter). I'm simply saying that his tenure on the board should be determined by his work as a board member.

    Parents are free to withdraw their children from public education and put them into private education (religious or not) at any time.
    Your money is also confiscated to pay for street lights. Is it therefore your business to know the moral character of Joe Blow employee who installed the light?
    No. That involves minors. This situation does not. Big difference.
     
  9. Bunyon

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    Ok, what about snorting Cocaine in Holland, where it is legal?
     
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    Welcome to a democracy. Do you not believe God is sovereign? Some of the most receptive to the gospel today are former communist countries.
     
  11. Johnv

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    What about taking the Lord's name in the privacy of his own home? What about coveting his neighbor's Acura?

    I'm just wondering where the hair is to be split.
     
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    Is America any better with Las Vegas where what happens there stays there. At one time people in America drank a green juice which made them feel good produced by Coca Cola. According to some in America that was a time when things were better spiritually.

    When was the last time someone protested Nevada? They are still a part of the US.
     
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    We recognize a persons privacy in there own home. And I would hardly compare those things to snorting cocaine. But doing something Illegal or publicly is a different story. Were would you draw the line, is everything done in the private life not of any concern. What if he was a female and was involved in a topless protest against the promise keepers in D.C.? The real question is do you guys have any lines?

    BTW, I am assuming this Guyhunt site is a gay site, but I did not see the info in the link.
     
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    I agree with Johnv, where is the line drawn? At what point are private activities no longer private? Like it or not homosexuality is accepted by most in our society. Would we be having this same conversation if he had placed his profile on a hetero site? There are many "dating" sites, gay and straight, that are more sexual in nature than eharmony, should we police all of them to ensure that no one involved in the school system signs up?
     
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    The question is where would you draw the line? I know where I would draw it.
     
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    I have to agree with John on this.

    Did this guy break any laws?

    Can't the parents vote him out if they don't like the way he is "handling" himself?

    Can't the parents remove their children and put them in a different school?

    Do you honestly think EVERYONE that is involved with the school system is an upstanding Christian?

    Just because he isn't what we would want, does that give us the right to have him removed? What about the people the want to remove the Ten Commandments from public places? All Bibles from public places?

    Even though we, as Christians, don't agree with his choices, he can't point fingers either or the next time it might be pointed at us.

    Jamie
     
  17. Johnv

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    Good point, but if you're going to be consistent, you must acknowlege that the site he put his pic on was a private site for members only, not for the general public.

    What I REALLY want to know is: who found the pic, and why are they to date coming out smelling like a rose?
     
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    As a practicel stand point Johnv is being a realist and we are forced into a "practical" approach given the times in which we live. But his proposisition that his private life should never have an impact on his posistion in the school system is false and dangerous.

    Where would you draw the line?
     
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    How about a scool official who is found to freguent those brothels in navada that are legal.
    If the schools want to have a say in values education, they should be held to values standards. Otherwise, just stick with reading, writing, and arithmatic.
     
  20. Filmproducer

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    The question is not how much of an impact his private life has on his position. The question is, can he, or anyone else, be "punished" for their private lives, if said lifestyle is not engaging in any illegal activities? It is a slippery slope.
     

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