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Rippon · Jul 7, 2012

1 Timothy

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1:4 : and devoting themselves to interminable myths and geneologies, which do not further God's plan for us, which works through faith.

1:6,7 : Through lack of these some people have gone astray into a wilderness of words.They set out to be teachers of the law, although they do not understand either the words they use or the subjects about which they are so dogmatic.

1:14 : the grace of our Lord was lavished upon me, along with the faith and love which are ours in Christ Jesus.

3:15 : in case I am delayed, to let you know what is proper conduct in God's household, that is, the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth.

6:4 : is a pompous ignoramus with a morbid enthusiasm for mere speculations and quibbles.
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Okay,and how about 1:3 : interminable myths and geneologies

1:9 : for parricides and matricides

4:14 : Do not neglect the spiritual endowment given you

5:23 : Turn a deaf ear to empty and irreligious chatter

Rippon · Jul 7, 2012

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1:1 : From Paul, by the will of God apostle of Christ Jesus , to God's people at Ephesus, to the faithful , incorporate in Christ Jesus .

1:6 : in order that the glory of his gracious gift , so graciously conferred on us in his Beloved, might redound to his praise.

1:11: In Christ indeed we have been given our share in the heritage , as was decreed in his design whose purpose is everywhere at work; for it was his will

1:13 : And in Christ also -- once you had heard the message of the truth, the good news of your salvation, and had believed it--in him you were stamped with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit.

3:10 : in order that now, through the church, the wisdom of God in its infinite variety might be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms.

4:14 : We are no longer to be children, tossed about by the waves and whirled around by every fresh gust of teaching, dupes of clever rogues and their deceitful schemes.

4:16 : and on him the whole body depends. Bonded and held together by every constituent joint, the whole frame grows through the proper functioning of each part, and builds itself up in love.

5:6 : Let no one deceive you with shallow arguments ; it is for these things that divine retribution falls on God's rebel subjects.
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And what about ...

1:10 :when the time was ripe

1:19 : how vast are the resources of his power open to us who have faith

2:7 : how immense are the resources of his grace

3:12 : in whom we have freedom of access to God,with the confidence born of trust in him

4:7 : a particular share in the bounty of Christ

4:26 : do not let sunset find you nursing your anger

5:4 : No coarse,stupid,or flippant talk : these things are out of place

5:15 : act sensibly,not like simpletons

6:4 : do not goad your children to resentment

6:11 : stand firm against the stragems of the devil

6:12 : potentates of this dark age

Rippon · Jul 9, 2012

1 Corinthians

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1:17 : Christ did not send me to baptize , but to proclaim the gospel ; and to do it without recourse to the skills of rhetoric , lest the cross of Christ be robbed of its effect .

2:1 : So it was , my friends , that I came to you , without any pretentions to eloquence or wisdom in declaring the truth about God .

2:7 : I speak of God's hidden wisdom , though not a wisdom belonging to this present age or to its governing powers , already in decline .

3:18 : Make no mistake about this : if there is anyone among you who fancies himself wise -- wise , I mean , by the standards of this age -- he must become a fool if he is to be truly wise .

4:19 : I shall come very soon , if it is the Lord's will ; and then I shall take the measure of these self-important people , not by what they say , but by what they can do

5:6 : Your self-satisfaction ill becomes you . Have you never heard the saying ,'A little leaven leavens all the dough'?

7:35 : In saying this I am thinking simply of your own good . I have no wish to keep you on a tight rein ; I only want you to be beyond criticism and be free from distraction in your devotion to the Lord .

9:18 : Then what is my pay ? It is the satisfaction of preaching the gospel without expense to anyone ; in other words , of waiving the rights my preaching gives me .

10:11 : All these things that happened to them were symbolic , and were recorded as a warning for us , upon whom the end of the ages has come .

13:9 : For our knowledge and our prophecy alike are partial .

14:7 : Even with inanimate things that produce sounds -- a flute , say , or a lyre -- unless their notes are distinct , how can you tell what tune is being played ?

14:9 : In the same way , if what you say in tongues yields no precise meaning , how can anyone tell what is what is being said ? You will be taliking to empty air .

14:11 : If I do not know the speaker's language , his words will be gibberish to me , and mine to him .

16:2 : Every Sunday each of you is to put aside and keep by him whatever he can afford , so that there need be no collecting when I come .

16:11 : so no one must slight him . Speed him on his way with your blessing ;for he is to join me , and I am waiting for him with our friends .
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In addition : 4:13 : as the dregs of humanity
10:5 : the wilderness was strewn with their corpses
11:22 : are you so contemptuous of the church of God
12:31 : The higher gifts are those you should prize
14:7 : Even with inanimate things that produce sounds

Rippon · Jul 9, 2012

Galatians

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Sometimes a complete verse , more often a phrase will be shown .

1:10 : Am I currying favor with men ?

2:6 : As for those reputed to be something (not that their importance matters to me :God does not recognize these personal distinctions)

2:14 : I saw that their conduct did not square with the truth of the gospel

3:15 : My friends , let me give you an illustration . When a man's will and testament has been duly executed , no one else can set it aside or add a codicil .

6:16,17 : All who take this principle for their guide , peace and mercy be upon them , the Israel of God ! In future let no one make trouble for me , for I bear the marks of Jesus branded on my body .
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In addition :

3:19 : it was an interim measure
3:23 : pending the revelation of faith
4:3 : during our minority we were slaves
5:3 : I impress on you once again

Rippon · Jul 9, 2012

2 Corinthians

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Sometimes I'll quote the whole verse , and sometimes just a sentence or so .

2:14 : But thanks be to God , who continually leads us as captives in Christ's triumphal procession , and uses us to spread abroad the fragrance of the knowledge of himself !

5:4 : We groan indeed , we who are enclosed within this earthly frame

6:16 : Can there be a compact between the temple of God and idols ?

8:2 : yet in all this they have been so exuberantly happy that from the depths of their poverty they have shown themselves lavishly open-handed .

8:14 : At the moment your surplus meets their need , but one day your need may be met from their surplus .

9:6 : sow sparingly , and you will reap sparingly ; sow bountifully , and you will reap bountifully .

10:1 : I , Paul , appeal to you by the gentleness and magnanimity of Christ

10:4,5 : The weapons we wield are not merely human ; they are strong enough with God's help to demolish strongholds , We demolish sophistries and all that rears its proud head against the knowledge of God ;we compel every human thought to sureender in obedience to Christ; and we are prepared to punish any disobedience once your own obedience is complete .

10:12 : What fools they are to measure themselves on their own, to find in themselves their standard of comparison !

10:13 : As for us , our boasting will not go beyond the proper limits ; and our sphere is determined by the limit God laid down for us , which permitted us to come as far as Corinth .

11:13 : Such people are sham apostles , confidence tricksters masquerading as apostles of Christ .

11:20 : If someone tyrannizes over you , exploits you , gets you into his clutches , puts on airs , and hits you in the face , you put up with it .
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5:2 : In this present body we groan,yearning to be covered by our heavenly habitation
5:7 : faith is our guide,not sight
5:16 : wordly standards have ceased to count in our estimate of anyone
10:7 : Look facts in the face

Rippon · Jul 9, 2012

Colossians

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1:11,12 : In his glorious might may he give you ample strength to meet with fortitude and patience whatever comes; and to give joyful thanks to the Father who has made you fit to share the heritage of God's people in the realm of light.

1:15,16 : He is the image of the invisible God; his is the primacy over all creation. In him everything in heaven and earth was created , not only things visible but also the invisible orders of thrones, sovereignties, authorities, and powers: the whole universe has been created through him and for him.

1:18 : He is the head of the body, the church. He is its origin, the first to return from the dead, to become in all things supreme.

1:27 :To them he chose to make known what a wealth of glory is offered to the Gentiles in this secret purpose: Christ in you, the hope of glory.

2:4,5 : I tell you this to make sure no one talks you into error by specious arguments. I may be absent in body, but in spirit I am with you, and rejoice to see your unbroken ranks, and the solid front which your faith in Christ presents.

2:18,19 : You are not to be disqualified by the decision of people who go in for self-mortification and angel-worship and access to some visionary world. Such people , bursting with the futile conceit of worldly minds, lose their hold upon the head; yet it is from the head that the whole body, with all its joints and ligaments , has its needs supplied, and thus knit together grows according to God's design.

2:23 : Such conduct may have an air of wisdom, with its forced piety, its self-mortification, and its severity to the body; but it is of no use at all in combating sensuality.

3:12 : Put on , then, garments that suit God's chosen and beloved people : compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness, patience.

3:21 : Fathers, do not exasperate your children, in case they lose heart.

4:5 : Be wise in your dealings with outsiders, but use your opportunities to the full.
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1:23 : never to be dislodged from the hope
2:1 : I want you to know how strenuous are my exertions for you
3:8 : banish them all from your lips

Rippon · Jul 10, 2012

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1:3 : He is the radiance of God's glory, the stamp of God's very being, and he sustains the universe by his word of power. When he had brought about purification from sins, he took his seat at the right hand of God's majesty on high

1:14 : Are they not all ministering spirits sent out in God's service, for the sake of those destined to receive salvation?

4:12 : The word of God is alive and active. It cuts more keenly than any two-edged sword. piercing so deeply that it divides soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it discriminates among the purposes and thoughts of the heart.

5:12 : By this time you ought to be teachers, but instead you need someone to teach you the ABC of God's oracles over again. It comes to this: you need milk instead of solid food.

6:17 : and so, since God desired to show even more clearly to the heirs of his promise how immutable was his purpose, he guaranteed it by an oath.

9:18 : for a testament takes effect only when a death has occurred : it has no force while the testator is still alive.

10:23 : Let us be firm and unswerving in the confession of our hope, for the giver of the promise is to be trusted.

11:23-27 : By faith, when Moses was born, his parents hid him for three months, because they saw what a fine child he was ; they were not intimidated by the king's edict. By faith Moses, when he grew up, refused to be called a son of Pharaoh's daughter, preferring to share hardship with God's people rather than enjoy the transient pleasures of sin. He considered the stigma that rests on God's Anointed greater wealth than the treasures of Egypt, for his eyes were fixed on the coming reward. By faith he left Egypt, with no fear of the king's anger; for he was resolute, as one who saw the invisible God.

12:1 : With this great cloud of witnesses around us, therefore, we too must throw off every encumbrance and the sin that all too readily restricts us, and run with resolution the race which lies ahead of us.

12:18,19 : It is not to the tangible, blazing fire of Sinai that you have come, with its darkness, gloom, and whirlwind, its trumpet-blast and oracular voice, which the people heard and begged to hear no more
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And,in addition:

6:18 : Here,then, are two irrevocable acts
7:18 : The earlier rules are repealed as ineffective and useless
8:5 : a shadowy symbol of the heavenly one
11:1 : Faith gives substance to our hopes and convinces us of realities we do not see

Rippon · Jul 10, 2012

2 Peter

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1:12,13 : I shall keep reminding you of all this, although you know it and are well grounded in the truth you possess; yet I think it right to keep on reminding you as long as I lodge in this body.

1:16 : It was not on tales, however cleaerly concocted, that we relied when we told you about the power of our Lord Jesus Christ and his coming; rather with our own eyes we had witnessed his majesty.

1:21 : It was not on any human initiative that prophecy came; rather, it was under the compulsion of the Holy Spirit that people spoke as messengers of God.

2:2,3 : They will gain many adherents to their dissolute practices, through whom the way of truth will be brought into disrepute. In their greed for money they will trade on your credulity with sheer fabrications.

2:6,7 : God reduced the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes, condemning them to total ruin as an object-lesson for the ungodly in future days. But he rescued Lot, a good man distressed by the dissolute habits of the lawless society in which he lived.

3:11 : Since the whole universe is to dissolve in this way, think what sort of people you ought to be, what devout and dedicated lives you should live !
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1:15 : I will do my utmost to ensure
1:17 : He was invested with honor and glory
1;19 : until day breaks and the morning star rises to illuminate your minds
2;18 : They utter empty bombast;they use sensual lusts and debauchery as a bait

Rippon · Jul 10, 2012

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1:8 : God knows how I long for you all with the deep yearning of Christ Jesus himself.

1:17 : the others are moved by selfish ambition and present Christ from mixed motives , meaning to cause me distress as I lie in prison.

1:28 : meeting your opponents without so much as a tremor. This is a sure sign to them that destruction is in store for them and salvation for you, a sign from God himself
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And,in addition:

4:12 : I have been throughly initiated into fullness and hunger,plenty and poverty.

ktn4eg · Jul 10, 2012

OK...I've waited this long to enter the fray. If any of our BB family who are KJVO (of which I useta was one) can give the rationale for the last portion of Acts 12:4 to be translated thus in the KJV:

"...intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people."

I will revert to my once-dearly-held KJVOism.

Moreover, if, as most them claim, the KJV IS THE "Word of God," as in Romans 10:17 ("So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God,") then please explain how faith, an integral part of one's salvation, came to anyone prior to 1611 (Which, of course, would have included ALL of the KJV translators themselves). Unless, of course, there was a "Word of God" before 1611. AND, if such was, indeed, the case, why would God have needed a second "Word of God" (the KJV) if one already existed?

As I've said before in several of my posts, I'm NOT a KJV-hater. I enjoy reading it, and my signature below is a quotation from it. Back in the early 1970's I authored a tract, "Baptism" in the KJV, giving my reasons why I believe that this word was NOT an incorrect translation of its Greek root word in the times in which the KJV translators lived.

However, over the years I've come to re-evalute my position on KJV-onlyism. If one wishes to use the KJV, then that's fine with me.
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And I won't even bother to touch the first part of James 2:3 ("And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing....) :smilewinkgrin:

Yeshua1 · Jul 11, 2012

ktn4eg said: ↑

OK...I've waited this long to enter the fray. If any of our BB family who are KJVO (of which I useta was one) can give the rationale for the last portion of Acts 12:4 to be translated thus in the KJV:

"...intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people."

I will revert to my once-dearly-held KJVOism.

Moreover, if, as most them claim, the KJV IS THE "Word of God," as in Romans 10:17 ("So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God,") then please explain how faith, an integral part of one's salvation, came to anyone prior to 1611 (Which, of course, would have included ALL of the KJV translators themselves). Unless, of course, there was a "Word of God" before 1611. AND, if such was, indeed, the case, why would God have needed a second "Word of God" (the KJV) if one already existed?

As I've said before in several of my posts, I'm NOT a KJV-hater. I enjoy reading it, and my signature below is a quotation from it. Back in the early 1970's I authored a tract, "Baptism" in the KJV, giving my reasons why I believe that this word was NOT an incorrect translation of its Greek root word in the times in which the KJV translators lived.

However, over the years I've come to re-evalute my position on KJV-onlyism. If one wishes to use the KJV, then that's fine with me.
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And I won't even bother to touch the first part of James 2:3 ("And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing....) :smilewinkgrin:
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Several problems with your former position!

Why the KJV, and not the Vulgate, or Tynsdale, or geneva bibles?

As you stated well, could any be saved before 1611 by any other bible version?

which is the real word of god, hebrew/Greek texts, or KJV?

Why do some say KJV perfect/only english translation, when the translators themselves said otherwise?

Does that mean no other version can be used by God to save us today? So everybody has to learn english?

Rippon · Jul 26, 2012

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1:24 : For this reason God has given them up to their own vile desires, and the consequent degradation of their bodies.

5:20 : Law intruded into this process to multiply law-breaking. But where sin was multiplied, grace immeasurably exceeded it

6:18 : emancipated from sin, you have become slaves of righteousness

8:18 : For I reckon that the sufferings we now endurebear no comparison with the glory, as yet unrevealed, which is in store for us.

8:26 : In the same way the Spirit comes to the aid of our weakness. We do not even know how we ought to pray, but through our inarticulate groans the Spirit himself is pleading for us

8:30 : and those whom he foreordained, he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

8:37 : and yet, throughout it all, overwhelming victory is ours through him who loved us.

9:16 :Thus it does not depend on human will or effort, but on God's mercy.

9:23 : precisely in order to make known the full wealth of his glory on vessels that were objects of mercy, prepared from the first for glory?

11:22 : Observe the kindness and the severity of God -- severity to those who fell away, divine kindness to you provided that you remain within its scope; otherwise you too will be cut off,

11:33 : How deep are the wealth and the wisdom and the knowledge of God! How inscrutable his judgments, how unsearchable his ways!

12:2 : Conform no longer to the pattern of this present world, but be transformed by the renewal of your minds.Then you will be able to discern the will of God, and to know what is good, acceptable, and perfect.

16:18 : such people are servants not of Christ our Lord but of their own appetites, and they seduce the minds of simple people with smooth and specious words.
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And,...:

2:5 : the obstinate impenitance of your heart
2:28 : it is externals that make a Jew
4:16 : a matter of sheer grace
5:5 : God's love has flooded our hearts
5:12 : death pervaded the whole human race
6:19 : to use language that suits your human weakness)
7:21 : I discover the principal,then

Yeshua1 · Jul 27, 2012

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And,...:

2:5 : the obstinate impenitance of your heart
2:28 : it is externals that make a Jew
4:16 : a matter of sheer grace
5:5 : God's love has flooded our hearts
5:12 : death pervaded the whole human race
6:19 : to use language that suits your human weakness)
7:21 : I discover the principal,then
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Do you recommend this version to read and study from?

Rippon · Jul 27, 2012

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Do you recommend this version to read and study from?
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It is slightly on the liberal side;but not so much as the New English Bible. The REB cleaned up a lot of what came before and made it more orthodox.

It reads very elegantly. It's probably uses the best English style for a Bible translation of the 20th century. By that I do not at all mean that it's written in the vernacular of the day. It has an older feel without the KJV isms.

Yeshua1 · Jul 27, 2012

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It is slightly on the liberal side;but not so much as the New English Bible. The REB cleaned up a lot of what came before and made it more orthodox.

It reads very elegantly. It's probably uses the best English style for a Bible translation of the 20th century. By that I do not at all mean that it's written in the vernacular of the day. It has an older feel without the KJV isms.
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Like a british version of the 1984 NIV?

Would the NRSV be likem a british ESV, better to study from than REB?

Rippon · Jul 28, 2012

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Like a British version of the 1984 NIV?
No,there are anglized versions of the 84 NIV,TIV and 2011 NIV. The REB is more liberal and more dynamic than the 84 NIV.
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Would the NRSV be like a British ESV, better to study from than REB?
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The NRSV is an American production. But the closest thing to the ESV is indeed the NRSV and in my opinion the latter is slightly better.

The NIV (of whatever incarnation) ESV and NRSV are all better to study from than the REB.

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