"Real" baptism

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Salty, Feb 28, 2010.

  1. Salty

    Salty
    Expand Collapse
    20,000 Posts Club
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    22,126
    Likes Received:
    221
    I was reading my Wycliffe Bible Commentary and came across Acts 8:38. The commentary says " One of our earliest post-Biblical Christian writings, the Didache (c. A.D. 125), says that baptism should be performed in running water if it is possible. (bold is Salty's emphasis)

    Thoughts?

    Salty
     
  2. OldRegular

    OldRegular
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2004
    Messages:
    22,678
    Likes Received:
    53
    There are some churches that still practice this Baptism!
     
  3. SaggyWoman

    SaggyWoman
    Expand Collapse
    Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2000
    Messages:
    17,933
    Likes Received:
    8
    In the river.
     
  4. Zenas

    Zenas
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2007
    Messages:
    2,640
    Likes Received:
    6
    Here is what the Didache says:
    Not bad instructions, but I wonder how many of us fasted one or two days before being baptized.? :smilewinkgrin:
     
  5. SaggyWoman

    SaggyWoman
    Expand Collapse
    Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2000
    Messages:
    17,933
    Likes Received:
    8
    I wonder if the guy Phillip baptized fasted before he was baptized?
     
  6. Marcia

    Marcia
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2004
    Messages:
    11,139
    Likes Received:
    0
    Maybe it says to use running/"living" water because Jesus said he is the living water, so it's a better representation.
     
  7. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    38,332
    Likes Received:
    786
    What craziness. How do all those instructions effect the symbolization of Baptism? (Rhetorical question none need reply)
     
  8. donnA

    donnA
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2000
    Messages:
    23,354
    Likes Received:
    0
    I don't see that theres any biblical support for any of it. So why should we do something not even biblical.
     
  9. Jerome

    Jerome
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2006
    Messages:
    5,629
    Likes Received:
    45
    Why do they prefer cold water for baptism?

    Notice you also have to recite the Didache teachings before baptism:

     
  10. Salty

    Salty
    Expand Collapse
    20,000 Posts Club
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    22,126
    Likes Received:
    221
    Is it Biblical to use a baptistery? To be like Jesus, we should only be baptized in a river. :confused:

    Actually, I like the ideal of fasting (24 hours ?) before your baptism.
    Suppose those who wanted to be baptized, say at the Sunday pm service, arrive at the church at 6 pm Sat so they - as a group with the pastor could fast, study and pray for those 24 hours.

    Salty
     
  11. Aaron

    Aaron
    Expand Collapse
    Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2000
    Messages:
    15,657
    Likes Received:
    225
    Mode is neither the focus nor the essence of the rite.
     
  12. sag38

    sag38
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2008
    Messages:
    4,394
    Likes Received:
    1
    I like the fasting too especially when it comes to a large candidate. The lighter they are the easier it is to baptize them.
     
  13. Jerome

    Jerome
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2006
    Messages:
    5,629
    Likes Received:
    45
    Get your Didache-sanctioned baptistry here.
     
    #13 Jerome, Mar 1, 2010
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 1, 2010
  14. Jon-Marc

    Jon-Marc
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2007
    Messages:
    2,752
    Likes Received:
    0
    Running water? That leaves out church baptismals, lakes, ponds and only means rivers. It also means that my baptism wasn't legitmate. :BangHead: Oh well, I'll take my chances--especially since baptism doesn't save anyone. :saint:
     
  15. donnA

    donnA
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2000
    Messages:
    23,354
    Likes Received:
    0
    fasting 24 hours before baptism is not biblical, therefore can not be required.
    the ethiopian wasn't baptized in running water, therefore the requirement for running water is not biblical.
     
    #15 donnA, Mar 1, 2010
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 1, 2010
  16. Salty

    Salty
    Expand Collapse
    20,000 Posts Club
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    22,126
    Likes Received:
    221
    Does the Bible require fasting before Baptistm NO

    Does the Bible forbid fasting before Baptistm NO

    Therefore it would be up to the local church.

    Salty
     
  17. donnA

    donnA
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2000
    Messages:
    23,354
    Likes Received:
    0
    if the church had unbiblical requirements for a person seeking to obey scripture then I go elsewhere.
     
  18. Zenas

    Zenas
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2007
    Messages:
    2,640
    Likes Received:
    6
    Donna, are you sure the Ethiopian wasn't baptized in running water? All my bible says is that they both went down into the water and they came up out of the water. It doesn't say whether it was a pond, creek, spring, or watering trough.
     
  19. Salty

    Salty
    Expand Collapse
    20,000 Posts Club
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    22,126
    Likes Received:
    221
    So a church should not have you go thu a membership class before joining and or being baptized. and of course you would insist on being baptized in a river. And while being baptized (before going under) the pastor should not ask you to say anything, and of course the church should not require you to wear a black baptismal gown (for modesty sakes)...
     
    #19 Salty, Mar 1, 2010
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 1, 2010
  20. Amy.G

    Amy.G
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2006
    Messages:
    13,103
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well, the water was running before the baptismal got full! So, I think you're ok. :laugh:
     

Share This Page

Loading...