There have been several threads mostly having to do whether someone is a false prophet or apostate. There have also been a few threads about who is in hell from history. My question to anyone who would express an opinion is, "Do we really know who is saved for sure other than ourselves?" My belief right now is that only the person and God know for sure. Now granted, we can have a good idea by knowing someone over a period of time, by seeing the change Christ has worked in their life. We can also have an idea by observing others over a period of time that show no Christ-like qualities or any interest in spiritual things. If you are diving by a bar and a drunk staggers out, is that person lost? Is the friendly, smiling, well-dressed person at church all the time saved? There was a pastor in the area here who a few years ago took it upon himself to ask the community to pray for the salvation of various community leaders, all of which will remain unnamed here. To me, that pastor may have thought he knew that they were not saved, but I think there is no way for him to know. Any thoughts would be appreciated.