Reasons for a KJVP position

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  1. Terry_Herrington

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    In trying to approach the bible version debate from a different direction, I have listed three of the reasons why I hold to the KJVP (King James Preferred) position.

    For one thing, I believe that the English language was at its peak during the time the KJV was translated. Things deteriorate over time and language is no different. Surely no one would believe that today's English is as precise and exact as it was 400 years ago. That leaves two options, either settle for a bible that is written to today's standards or improve your vocabulary by learning the meanings of a few antiquated words.

    Another thing is that when a church uses one version, it promotes unity and a deep respect for the Word of God rather than continually comparing the different versions and trying to decide which one is correct. I have set in bible study groups where one version said something totally different for another. It was confusing trying to figure out which one was correct.

    Also, I do not believe that after nearly 400 years of using the KJV, God would suddenly allow "better" manuscripts to surface which would correct supposed errors found in the established version He had blessed for so long.

    There are other reasons for the KJVP position, but these, to me, are three of the most important ones.

    Let the attack begin!
     
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    Deteriorate, no I'd say change... Language changes over time. Some prefer to use a translation that uses language that is more understandable to todays people.
    As for the precise nature of the language used at the time there would be some argument among rocket scientists. [​IMG]

    Why did the New Testament writers use koine Greek instead of the classical Greek: it was the language of the people.

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  3. Pastor Larry

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    This argument could have been in the 7th or 8th century. Only then, it would have mitigated against the manuscripts underlying the KJV. The point is that this argument works both ways and is therefore not all that helpful.

    The fact is that God blesses his word, not a particular translation of it. When the KJV was translated, this same argument about the "blessing" of his word and the "confusion" brought by other translations was offered and the KJV was made anyway. Those arguments were made in 400ad.

    What is intersting about this discussion is that the arguments stay the same. Only the version changes.

    However, most of us have no problem with those who prefer the KJV.
     
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    That is why it is always best to have a leader involved who has thoroughly studied the material before hand and can speak to these differences intelligently. Even in a situation where everyone is using the KJV (or some other good version), you will occasionally need to clarify a poor translation or, in rare occasions, state some uncertainly in an interpretation due to an uncertainty in the underlying text.

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  5. Terry_Herrington

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    I appreciate your responses. One thing unique about this thread is that I am not trying to convince anyone to change their position. I don't care what translation others use. I do not feel superior, nor will I break fellowship over what bible someone else uses. This is just an explanation of some of the reasons I have decided to use the KJV. Wouldn't it be good if we could decide to disagree and do so with a Christian perspective? [​IMG]
     
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    The KJVP position is one that asserts that there are reasons for a person to prefer a KJV translation over others, but that such a preference is not compulsory to everyone. The KJVP position neither asserts that there is only one version acceptible for all English speaking people, nor does it assert authority of one version over any others. A KJVP position is just that: one of preference. Hence, a KJVP position is certainly a reaonable position for persons to have. Most people, come to think of it, probably "prefer" a specific translation over another, which is perfectly appropriate.
     
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    Finally!!! A thread about the KJV that doesn't have both sides snarling at each other like a couple of bulldogs fighting over a hambone. Thanks.

    In Christ,
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  8. HankD

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    Terry,
    I would add that I prefer the TR type mss upon which the KJV is based.

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  9. Forever settled in heaven

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    no desire to attack, here or anywhere. just 2 things to highlight:

    1. my concern wld be that ppl be honest n stop purveying lies. this can be done by KJBOs, KJBPs, MVs, whomever--however, on this board at least it appears that one particular group has developed a specialty for prevarication.

    2. the question cld be refined a little further. some of us here may be KJBP on certain occasions n not on others. e.g. it's nice to have the majestic/familiar cadence of the nativity passages during Christmas, n who'd like to hear Handel's Messiah sung to The Message translation?

    so yeah, i'd be KJBP, too, when the occasion calls for it. ;)
     
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    Forever,

    Yeah, we all can be KJVP at times. And it really is nice to be able to read posts in this catagory without putting on boxing gloves.

    In Christ,
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    Amen! :D [​IMG] [​IMG] :D [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Askjo,

    At last we agree upon something [​IMG]

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  13. Terry_Herrington

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    I will make this a trio. I agree with Hank and with Akjo. [​IMG]

    BTW, it's time to get ready for Sunday school and church; have a great time worshiping our Lord Jesus Christ today! [​IMG]
     
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    Yes bro Terry,

    And using whatever version of God's Word.

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    TerryH writes:
    I question if it's possible to have only one version in a church and if it would be healthy.

    Many churches have the accepted version "pew bible" but people usually bring the version they feel most comfortable with. And they recognise that there will be some differences at times.

    Sometimes it is those differences that cause people to dig deeper into the Word and search for truth.

    At my Wednesday "Growth Group" we may have 3 or more different versions. I can use the different translations to clarify a point.

    Rob
     
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    Agreed that:

    It's good to see a discussion without the boxing gloves

    It's good that one is KJVP (or any translation) and does so with Christlike humility

    Pastor Larry had pretty good assertions in his prior post up the page;

    aefting is right in saying
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  17. Keith M

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    I agree it is refreshing to see a discussion of preferences rather than an argument over versions. Each version has its favorable points, but when someone tries to shove any version down the throats of others, that is when the "discussion" has gone too far.

    The best version? That is the version the individual feels most comfortable with - the version that will be read by that individual.
     
  18. IanM

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    I strongly prefer the King James Version. I have found that GOD opens my eyes and heart more through study of the KJV. However before I ever start reading any version I pray for GOD to open my soul to what Hehs for me. No matter the version, with that prayer, GOD has ministered to me. :D
     

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