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Rufus_1611 · Jul 3, 2007

Tomorrow, Americans celebrate their independence from England. This independence was fought and won via what most consider to have been a rebellion. Our nation's beginnings were founded via rebellion against the British monarchy. The war that cost the most Americans their lives, was a war that was considered to be rebellion in the War Against the States. Today, we have people in the tax honesty movement who believe they are fighting against tyranny in a similar manner as the Patriots of old. Thus I ask, is there such a thing as a righteous rebellion? If you intend to celebrate Independence Day but think the Confederate States of America was wrong why? If you think the Patriots of the 1700s were right and think Ed Brown is wrong why?

Hope of Glory · Jul 3, 2007

What if we think the patriots were right, we think the South was right in the War for Southern Independence, and that Ed Brown is right?

At least right intent.

Rufus_1611 · Jul 3, 2007

Hope of Glory said:

What if we think the patriots were right, we think the South was right in the War for Southern Independence, and that Ed Brown is right?

At least right intent.
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You get bonus points for consistency. Now how do you reconcile it Biblically? Are each of those three instances actually rebellion, or are all three righteous causes and perhaps should be defined differently?

poncho · Jul 4, 2007

We've gone from liberty to a unitary decidership all in the name of security.

I hate to introduce a taboo subject, but this country really needs a revolution. The founding document says, "Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

This is the document these hypocrites like Bush pretend to be sending us to war for. If ever there was a time for revolution, this is it. The abuses of King George may have been worse in theory because it was established in law that he was a king and had power over everyone. But beyond the theory that we are now free, today's Baby Bush has launched more abuses and atrocities against the American people than the king ever did.
In a personal letter, Jefferson went much further than he wrote in the Declaration of Independence. ""God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. .

... And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

Before someone drags me off as a "terrorist" for saying so, let me say that I am serious, but revolution does not have to be bloody like the Russian revolution, or the bloody military coup launched against the democratic government of Chile by Nixon and Kissinger. We have Nelson Mandela as an example now. We have Eastern Europe as an example. We have Ghandi and Martin Luther King as examples. The American people really must restore the republic, reestablish the rule of law and democratic government, but it must be done by adept application of every tool and strategy in the age of smart machines and the information revolution. Guns and bombs are irrelevant, of no use in this struggle. It will take intelligence, and intelligently exercised force.
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