In another thread, several aspects of Christians participating and being involved in rebellion against existing civil government was criticized because of passages in Scripture to obey the government the Lord has put in place. The discussion included our own revolution. This seems to be an endless cycle. If we were wrong to revolt against England, then is not it true that at some point, this is the way every European country came into existence? Another related issue, what gave these same countries (the super powers of the time) the right to come to the New World, and overthrow existing civil governments, sieze land, abuse its citizens, and loot the land? The existing Indian tribes were no threat to these nations? Although not exactly the same as rebellion, isn't this a total disregard for existing civil authority?