OK, I have to recant. Several weeks ago I mentioned my having difficulty finding a church. For me & mine it must be Baptist, Teach DoG Sotorelogy & be close enough that my family & I can regularly attend all services. Since I was studying Abraham Kuyper (A Dutch Reformed Theologian) I called around to get more information, 1st to two Reformed Baptist Church pastors who are within an hour or so from me....Im still waiting for a call back LOL. I then started to call Dutch Reformed Churches & got to speak with a guy who is a Dutch Reformed pastor....so as a default I met with him, went to services on the agreement he would school me in theology (caveat---Im Baptist so Im not joining a Reformed Dutch Church) After serious reconsideration, I'm not going to do it. 1st I was told that I was arrogant for making statement that, I am not joining any church thats not Baptist. And I mean it from the bottom of my heart! 2nd these Dutchies hold to an extreme Calvinism that denies God's common grace and the free offer of the gospel. From my prospective this is a form of hyper-Calvinism, and is fraught with many dangerous ramifications. 3rd, predestination effects every element of their lives down to telling them which socks to wear. Well, sorry folks but I am not a Hyper Calvie. :tongue3: So good bye Dutch Reformed church & good riddance.