Reformed & non Reformed doctrinal statements

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  1. evangelist6589

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    Some churches are Reformed, yet have the same name as a non Reformed church. Some churches make things easy by spelling out the word Reformed in their name or their statement of faith such as these ones

    http://www.saintandrewsonline.org/about/what-we-believe/doctrine-beliefs
    http://www.hopeingod.org/about-us/who-we-are/our-beliefs

    but others hide things in their statement and I have to dig to find out. I can always use the 9 marks website, but that does not find all Reformed churches in an area. So when looking for a Reformed church what do you usually look for if the church does not SPELL OUT TULIP, or Reformed Eschatology in their statement of faith?

    Are these churches Reformed?

    http://www.nhcconline.com
    http://www.nhcconline.com/new/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/doctrinal_statement.pdf

    Another Test

    http://www.churchofthehighlands.org/index.cfm/pageid/1345/index.html

    Another test

    http://storage.cloversites.com/cowcreekcommunitychurch/documents/affirmation of faith website.pdf

    Another test

    http://www.gracebibleonline.org/values.html
     
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  2. Rippon

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    Just look and see if they have the 1689 or some other Creedal Confession of Faith.
     
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    This is coincidental. Just yesterday I was looking at Baptist Churches in Kentucky on the Founders site.The following are Calvinistic,if not fully Reformed as a Baptist Church can be.

    Baptist Church = BC (no,not before Christ!)
    New Hampshire Confession of Faith =NHC. But having that particular confession of faith would not be so strong regarding the doctrines of grace in my estimation.
    Abstract of Principles=AP
    The Second London Baptist Confession of Faith =1689

    Highpoint BC
    NHC

    First Baptist of Cannonsburg
    NHC

    Crossroads BC
    1689

    Pathway BC
    1689

    Grace BC
    Philadelphia Confession

    Capital BC
    1689

    North Oldham BC
    AP

    Covenant BC
    1689

    Solid Rock BC
    1689

    New Hope BC
    AP

    Grace Immanuel Church
    AP

    Lexington Bethel BC
    NHC

    Christ Community Church of Louisville
    AP

    Clifton BC
    I am surprised. Dr.Thomas Schriener is the head Pastor. He is quite Reformed.
    Yesterday I listened to one of his messages.

    The Reformed BC
    1689

    Watson Memorial BC
    NHC

    Muldraugh BC
    NHC

    Grace Family Fellowship
    AP

    Eagle Heights BC
    AP

    The Gathering Community Church
    Charleston Confession

    Sovereign Grace BC At Hillsboro
    1689

    New Covenant Reformed BC
    1689

    Little Bethel BC
    1644/1646
     
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    Four of the ones on my list did not have the word "Baptist" in their church name.
    1689 --8
    AP ----6
    NHC --4
    The exceptions were the Philadelphia Confession of Faith,the Charleston Confession of Faith,and the 1644/46. Dr. Bob's church way out west sticks with the latter.
     
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    baptist churches can be either reformed/Reformed by their statement of beliefs, as to me what divides the 2 groups would be on their view and use of the Conessions of faith, and how they view/hold to Covenant Theology!
     
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    Careful. I've been told here that most Reformed churches one encounters are not 'truly Reformed':laugh:


    O.K. Here's an interesting church in the 9Marks directory:

    http://www.9marks.org/churchsearch/viewItem.php?id=3615

    Is that near you in Colorado?

    It's Wesleyan.

    Pastoral Resident 'Lindsay'?
     
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    What???? Why would this church be in their database????? Explain please.
     
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    When my 18 year old went off to college and was looking for a church she simply spoke to the pastors and asked about their soteriological views.

    There was no hiding their doctrines from her.

    Yup, she was able to easily weed out the Calvinistic Reformed and check them off the list as being unacceptable prospects.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Too bad, as they would have been the ones to mentally challenge her in sound doctrines!
     
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    Unwarranted and unnecessary post, if even in jest, Brother. Things like this keep us farther apart than attemting to come closer together. :tear:
     
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    Is that because they are mentally challenged? :laugh:
     
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    Seriously? Come on brother, there was absolutely nothing wrong with his post. All he is saying is that she would be challenged intellectually and theologically from the 'Cal' camp. No different than the way you were challenged with DoG and came around.

    Tell me exactly what is wrong with his statement? I see nothing derogatory about it whatsoever.
     
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    You then don't understand....they want to be kept apart. And that's fine by me .....I will go to my church and they could go to theirs.
     
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    Correct:thumbsup:
     
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    Zactly, thank you, you are perceptive:

     
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    I don't hold to covenant theology and I don't wrap my beliefs around Confessions of Faith as I view them subordinent to scripture. DoG theology I agree with.....so what's that make me? I would say, NOT Reformed.
     
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    The Reformed world does in fact regard the various confessions of faith as subordinate to Scripture. For instance,can you name any Presbyterian denomination that insists otherwise? I would venture to say that the strongest defenders of the Westminster Confession of faith would emphatically say that it is subordinate to the Word of God.
     
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    That's right, you're Deformed! :laugh: :thumbsup: :laugh: :love2:
     
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    I could well be mistaken, but thought had read here that Benjamin's daughter was bright, and was involved in ministry or youth group or something?

    if so, thought reformed would be where she could exercise those talents best, as those doctrines are indeed meat, not milk of the Bible?
     
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    She is very bright, articulate, understands Deterministic theology quite well and is very capable of refuting it both Biblically and logically. Don’t think a Calvinistic Reformed church would want a now 21 year in their Bible studies throwing major monkey wrenches into their plans of trying to convert believers toward following their creedal teachings anyway. Do you?

    EWF got it right, to each his own.
     
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