Reforming College Sports

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  1. Salty

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    Richard Hain of Duke University is concerned that less than half of Black black basketball players graduate from college.

    I do agree that could be a problem.

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    Why does is he only concerned about Black players, and not others ie, Orientals*, Caucasian, mid eastern, ect.

    Salty

    ps * are Orientals proportionately represented on college teams? Should they or any group be so?
     
  2. Bob Alkire

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    I think what he is pointing out is that so many of the players don't have the grades in HS to get much done in college, but they can play ball. They aren't student athletes but are athletes. So many of the players in that boat are black and that isn't treading them right. My answer is all sports aids would be for 4 or 5 years (when I went they were from year to year, I don't think it has changed, but I could be wrong)and if they are having problems in the class room, they don't play ball until they get their grades up, but their scholarship could not be taken from them. Also if a player left school early the school would lose two scholarships for two years, a price to pay for being the minor league for the pros(the one and out guys) So if a coach didn't watch what he was doing he could have half or more of the scholarship players not playing and they don't have any more scholarships to give out.
     
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    Should the NBA go back not drafting anyone until their class graduates.?
     
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    I don't know if it would be legal, but it would be nice if they are students and not just athletes. I'm sure it would end up in court.
     
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    Probably because black players have the lowest graduation rate, so he's focusing in on the worst statistic.
     
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    When was this ever a rule in the NBA? AFAIK, NBA franchises have been free to draft whomever they want. It just so happened that, until the late 90s, Moses Malone (the only one I can think of) was the only player drafted directly out of high school. Once the monkey-see monkey-do NBA GMs saw how good Kobe and KG were, they started drafting players directly out of high school hoping to catch lightning in a bottle.

    If an 18 year old kid is good enough to play in the NBA directly out of high school, why shouldn't he be allowed to do so?
     
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    I might be wrong but I believe there was an agreement between the NBA and NCAA not to go after the under class or of ones who hadn't been in school for four years. Now that might have been just football or maybe my old age is getting the best of me.

    If he isn't a student or is going to be in school only one year, I would rather see him go pro. As I've said many times, I see so many high school All Americans and some all SEC and so on players unloading trucks, because they didn't get an education. They were not pushed in their studies in HS are college for the most part. Talk to a 35 year old earning his living by unloading trailers, what a waste of time his days in college were.

    Look at the problems that our schools have had down here in Florida with its athletes. I know other schools have many of the same problems, but I much harder on our school because that is where I from and live.
     
  8. Salty

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    Actually, there was an NBA rule about not drafting non-college grads.
    Click here for the info. In addition the NBA had a terrority rule, where a team could draft a local player.

    Spencer Haywood was the player who challanged the NBA rule of non-college grads. The Supreme Court ruled in his favor.
     
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    I disagree with forcing players to play one yr of NCAA before NBA. If you're going to have a rule, make it two years. Colleges now are wasting scholarships on hired guns for one and a half semesters.

    To the OP, I agree with Bruce Pearl: the problem starts on the HS and jr high level. These guys are ill equipped for college and it carries over. I can name some names everyone would know in college basketball whose career flamed out in the pros (if they have one) and now they work at movie theaters as ticket takers, or as store security guards, or as loan sharks at high interest check cashing houses. They're eeking out a living but that's it.

    I've never understood the NBA saying they require certain requirements and that being illegal. Banks can say they want a HS grad for a teller. Why can't the NBA say they want two years college?
     

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