Refusing Him who speaks from Heaven

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  1. Iconoclast

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    William Gouge in his commentary on Hebrews warns of how a careless handling of the scripture can actually lead to a refusing to "hear" Him who speaks...
    What do you think of this list?

     
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    You know who had the hardest time with the message of Christ and had to come to him hidding in the night . It wasn't sinners, it was the religious leaders at that time.
     
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    Yes psa109,
    Religion makes people assert all kinds of humanistic ideas,ignoring the very word of God itself.....like this
    We must examine some of our thoughts concerning theology.
    Do we have star trek theology? ie, boldly going where no man has gone before?
    If no one in the history of the church has suggested anything that sounds like this new insight.....it is probably a false idea.:confused:
     
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    Jesus boldly went where no one has gone before. Our for-fathers teaching needs to improved and continue to mature through the words of God. Their teaching is in-complete the word of God is the only complete teaching. The day it stops growing they day it dies. No matter how old we are and mature we think we are we are still a child and in-mature to God and still need to be taught. Some still need milk and are not ready for solid food. We are not to deny milk, but go on. We shouldn't no longer be taught basics but be and example of and teaching it to babes.
     
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    Jesus is the only one who could as He alone could correct all human error.
    Yes I also agree,we all need to learn and the best of men are men at best.
    Yet God has chosen to use men as gifts to His church.
    The men I quote are proven teachers[not infallable popes].
    Psa 109.....did you find this long list I posted useful? I learn both from the list and verses offered....but even from how this pastor approached the text in hebrews 12;24-29 and offered these other verses and teaching to help open up the passage.
    I look down that list and see many today that commit the same sins and thereby refuse to hear Jesus in His word.
    One concern I have is when many despise gifted pastors teachers ,or theologians,.....and just shoot from the hip and discuss verses as if this was a discussion of a poem in high school english class. They assign strange meanings to texts that have never been held as orthodox....and they seem to not care that we have been given a wealth of teaching to help us stay under the safety of the word. Do you agree???
     
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    Long List

    I liked the long list is was very well put together.

    God has placed many people down the road He placed before me to teach me, even people against what He has taught me to teach me to put His microscope to test all the info from them to make sure it is His.

    Jesus is removing the scales from my eyes if it wasn't for Him I will still be blind. He isn't finished with me yet.
     
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    We are all learning with a view to serve God.We are responsible to build up each other in the faith.:1_grouphug:
     
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    I know what you mean, but weren't the "religious leaders at that time" sinners too? I know they liked to pretend that they were not. We have only to think of the way they accused Jesus of "eating with tax collectors and sinners."
     
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    Luke 18:
    The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector
    9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’
    13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’

    14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”
     
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    Yes, Psalms109:31, I think you and I are in agreement. The Pharisee in the parable was a hypocrite; he was keen to tell Godd how good he was, but his very boastfulness was a sin.
     

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