How am I " arguing against myself"? Never did I say that the KJV translators had the original autographs. If they did, we wouldn't be having this discussion. I agree, it puts the probability high. No evidence here is really "absolute proof" of the original reading. And why was that? It wasn't because they were rejected. S wasn't discovered till the 1800's. V was kept by the Catholics and wans't allowed to be used. (disagreed with the Vulgate which was the standard) again, you are confusing the TR with manuscripts used by Erasmus. You have to be kidding. How is this even relevant to what I said? Did I say that the V & S didn't disagree? What about my statement was false? I said What about that was false?