Religion of Evolution

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  1. jcrawford

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    Even athiests have to have an answer as to where we all come from.

    Since they rule God out - the only thing left is the theory of evolution - that things just happened!

    IMHO - Satan's refute of biblical creation is evolution!
     
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    Atheist evolutionists themselves admit to this. They show that evolutionISM is the "alternative" to the Creator Himself. (Hence - evilution)

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    But "some" even mong our atheist evolutionist frineds see a place for the "crutch of religion" though it has been "expelled" from Genesis and the Creator is shown "by evolutionism's doctrines" to be mere myth.

    Here is the "place" they allow the Creator to live in...

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    The "explanation by evolution" is all cockamamy anyway if evos can't tell the difference between Human races and species.

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    It takes more faith to believe the "facts" of evolution than to believe what the Bible has to say about Jesus Christ. I know, because I have been there.

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    Evolution isn't a religion. Evolution lacks a deity, an essential part of the definition of a religion. Evolution is only a scientific theory. The evidence is that it is true. It's only a matter of believing your eyes and understanding what you are seeing.

    And it is perfectly possible to go on trusting Jesus as your Savior when you do that, because I manage to do it.
     
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    What evolutionist can't tell humans from other species? Are you thinking of some of the extreme animal rights groups, perhaps?

    Would you think it was fair to take the extreme views of some of the christian sects - like the KKK for example - as an argument against Christianity?
     
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    I guess buddhism, confusionism and a host of others are not religions? You did say 'essential', so I will give you the benefit of the doubt.
    Evolution is a scientific theory, yes. But it also is the foundation for a religion. Humanism.

    That, and evolution is akin to a scientific impossibility, statistically speaking.
    I personally do not believe the two are mutually exclusive. I just feel that if one believes in evolution they may be ill informed.

    Evolution is one of the principal reasons I became a Christian in the first place. Realizing the farce of evolution made me seek out the truth.

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    Modern evos (unlike Darwin) deny there are several distinct human races still alive today and then try to tell us there are several extinct human species in the fossil record. If Neandertals were not a racial type of human being then Homo erectus is not a 'special' type of human 'species.'

    If the KKK was the only Christian sect in existence then it would be reasonable to argue against Christianity unless of course one possessed a copy of the Bible to refute the KKK.
     
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    As Dawkins points out - evolutionism's doctrines were invented with the very purpose of "Explaining" that part that the Bible attributes to our "Creator".


    Eolutionism's myths and fables offer an alternative to Christ the Creator (John 1:1-3) such that (as Dawkins points out) the Creator "contributes nothing".

    For some Christians - this "shrinking God" attribute of doctrines of evolutionism is "just fine". Even though it requires some pretty "bad science" in terms of the scientific method - to get there.

    Christian believers in evolutionism's doctrines find themselves in a foxhole that is rejected by the atheist evolutionist science elite as well as by Bible-believing - Christians that choose to trust the Creators "account" of His own act in creating the world.

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    </font>[/QUOTE]Very instructive.

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    The following example shows that evolution is basically philosophical or, better, religious.

    Creation
    Self-existing external Creator
    Cosmos created by divine fiat
    Basic systems completed in the past by supernatural processes
    Net changes in created systems ‘downward’ toward disorganization

    Evolution
    Self-originating or self-existing cosmos
    Cosmos organized by itself.
    All systems developed by still-continuing natural processes
    Net changes in evolving systems ‘upward’ toward higher organizations.
     
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    Dan:
    I agree with you, sir.
    Jesus spoke of Noah as a genuine historical character. The Lord believed the great flood to be a real event ( Mat. 24:37-39). He affirmed the historicity of the beginning of man and marriage in the garden (cf. Gen.2, Mat.19:1-9).

    Christians should not be "holding hands" with this evil.
     
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    Physically they are intermediate between humans and animals. We can't read from a fossil what was going on with the soul.

    I'm sorry, I can't parse that sentence. Please rephrase.

    Based no doubt on their dogmatic persistence in clinging to error against all reason and sense, clinging to their traditional interpretation of the Bible for justification of their errors.

    Not a good way for them to behave, right?
     
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    You can find all kinds of info about Creation Science just by typing "creation science" in your search window and hitting "enter".
    This will enable you to present evolutionist with facts.
     
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    A while back I issued a challenge: find one website dedicated to anti-evolution and young earth views of more than three pages that does not contain a plain scientific error. Several were suggested and none were found. This should tell you something.
     
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    I have a standing offer of $250,000 to anyone who can give any empirical evidence (scientific proof) for evolution.* My $250,000 offer demonstrates that the hypothesis of evolution is nothing more than a religious belief.

    Creation Science Evangelism

    Observed phenomena:

    Most thinking people will agree that--
    1. A highly ordered universe exists.
    2. At least one planet in this complex universe contains an amazing variety of life forms.
    3. Man appears to be the most advanced form of life on this planet.

    Known options:

    Choices of how the observed phenomena came into being--
    1. The universe was created by God.
    2. The universe always existed.
    3. The universe came into being by itself by purely natural processes (known as evolution) so that no appeal to the supernatural is needed.

    Evolution has been acclaimed as being the only process capable of causing the observed phenomena.

    Evolution is presented in our public school textbooks as a process that:

    1. Brought time, space, and matter into existence from nothing.
    2. Organized that matter into the galaxies, stars, and at least nine planets around the sun. (This process is often referred to as cosmic evolution.)
    3. Created the life that exists on at least one of those planets from nonliving matter (chemical evolution).
    4. Caused the living creatures to be capable of and interested in reproducing themselves.
    5. Caused that first life form to spontaneously diversify into different forms of living things, such as the plants and animals on the earth today (biological evolution).

    People believe in evolution; they do not know that it is true. While beliefs are certainly fine to have, it is not fair to force on the students in our public school system the teaching of one belief, at taxpayers’ expense. It is my contention that evolutionism is a religious worldview that is not supported by science, Scripture, popular opinion, or common sense. The exclusive teaching of this dangerous, mind-altering philosophy in tax-supported schools, parks, museums, etc., is also a clear violation of the First Amendment.
     
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    Hovind's offer is not a serious one. He has the rules rigged such that it could never be proven. That no one has met his "challenge" is no slap against science. Here, read all about it.

    Hovind's Offer

    Now Paul's challenge is an interesting one. He is right, no one could come up with a YEC website that did not have serious errors. In contrast, Paul and I both posted mainstream sites for which no YECers could find any problems.
     
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    No matter where one falls in the C/E debate, your statement is quite right. It's often the YEC literalist crows which attempts to elevate evolution to a religion, because it is the only way to attempt to refute it. Based on observation alone, evolution is generally a sound theory which explains the observations.
     

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