Remarriage after Annulment

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  1. Paul3144

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    We have had a lot of discussion about remarriage after divorce, but what if the marriage is annulled by a judge as not having been valid? Can a person remarry then?
     
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    Married then unmarried? How does that fit the Bible's description of marriage?
     
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    Is There a Difference???

    I don't see a difference in the two. It's like marriage rights for gays vs. civil unions. they're the same, giving the two persons the blessings to consummate a relationship.

    Therefore, annulment or divorce are only different in the legal terminology allowing two individuals, who consummated their marriage to no longer be married.

    Sorry, in my mind there is no difference.
     
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    In an annulment, the judge declares that a marriage never existed in the first place.
     
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    Ohhhhhh, so a judge can overrule scripture?
     
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    I agree with righteousdude. While a judge may legally rule the marriage never took place, the fact remains that it did exist and they did make vows.
     
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    Part of the reason a marriage can be annulled is if vows wren't taken with consent or under duress, etc.
     
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    This is more academic than anything else. In my work I have seen nearly 10,000 divorces but I never saw an annulment. It doesn't happen very often.
     
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    Do you believe in the validity of a marriage if one or both people have been divorced previously?
     
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    Annulment Can't Break the Joining of Two Spirits...

    ... legal actions can't break the two becoming one through the act of coitus. Annulment and divorce are simply laws of man, and have no ability to break the bond that God has declared to be "as one flesh" when two join their separate flesh and spirits in marriage and sexually consummate the civil act of marriage.

    Therefore, I continue to hold fast to what I said earlier. Annulment does not set the parties free from the spiritual aspect of the physical act of coming together and becoming one in the flesh.

    SEE: Ephesians 5:31 - "For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother and shall be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh." ALSO: Matt. 19: 5, Mark 10:8, and I Cor. 6:16.

    Annulment may mean, in the eyes of man's law, that the marriage never took place, but, as Christians, we must hold fast to the Scriptural aspects of marriage. They will alsways be as "one flesh!"

    Shalom,

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    They do an excellent job of explaining the hardness of the heart when it pertains to divorce. But they loose it in the end and insert mankind's sense of how mankind thinks the way things should be fair for mankind and ignore what God has said his will is for the offices in His Church.
     
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    I Was Wondering....

    .... if you would think their points are so sound and Biblical if you were in an abusive relationship where you were beaten so badly that you had to be hospitalized ??? Or, if you were to find out that you spouse was having an affair and they brought HIV home to your marriage bed, or, some other sexually transmitted disease ???? Or, if you were being treated with such disdain that you wanted nothing more than to end your life because you were made to believe that you were the most miserable person to ever live ???

    Until you've been there, you can't judge with an open heart. I've seen the bad side of marriages, and, I'd never stand in the way of a person getting out of a marriage that was resulting in personal harm or injustice to their right to happiness in this life.

    Furthermore, I'd never stand in the way of that person to go out and find happiness in the arms of another, if there was a valid Biblical reason for them to end the other relationship.

    In commenting, I forgot to mention the hearts of the children subjected to the problems between a man and woman who never should have married in the first place.

    I sure hope that the God who saved me from my sin is big enough to save me from a failed marriage as well as to forgive me for the sin of divorce and re-marriage.

    There are times that I believe man is way more rigid than God would ever be, in regard to any sin we commit in this life.

    We are not perfect, just forgiven !!!

    Shalom,

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    Please stay on topic. This topic isn't about remarriage after divorce, but rather marriage after annulment.
     
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    All the topic is about is whether-- legally-- a person is not married, while we know that civil law may not be in conformity with God's law, which we surely don't want in every particular case. [Do you want to punish anger with the death penalty, as Jesus equated it with murder?]

    You, or any church, can refuse to recognize a marriage after annulment as valid, and the persons involved have the legal privilege of acquiescing to that or ignoring it. What more discussion are you looking for here?
     
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    I wondered the same thing. Maybe this is an exploration as to whether an annulment vs a divorce makes a difference. I know second marriages in general are a tough subject for most pastors, and usually a call is made on an individual basis.
     
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    @ Righteous - they do address abuse in marriage. Maybe you missed that part :)

    And yes, I have been in a terribly abusive marriage that was so bad I had to seek a divorce. So I know first hand what it is like. And I'm tired of people in the church who don't know the situation judging me for being a divorced woman like I didn't "try hard enough" or didn't "pray enough".
     
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    I Do Understand You Struggle

    Like you, my first marriage ended because my wife no longer wanted me to be in the ministry. I dropped for over a year, and things did not improve between us. Once I went back into the ministry, she divorced me...

    Later, I found that she had been playing around with during our marriage. The church knew this, and chose not to reveal this in order to help our marriage make it.

    Once it ended, they came out of the walls to tell me what they knew. I just wish they'd have told me before, and not after, because I blamed myself for a long time.

    My second marriage was an abusive one. I saw the hand-writing-on-the-wall, but, chose to ignore it. However, the night she threatened to stab me to death, was our last night together.

    Thanks be to God that He doesn't give up on His kids. I just celebrated my 30th wedding anniversary with my third wife, and she is actually all and even more than I truly deserved in a partner, after all, I failed at two marriages.

    Isn't God just wonderful ???

    As for your abusive situation, I am truly sorry, because my second marriage was filled with both emotional and physical abuse, and knowing what to do, initially, was difficult.

    By the way, both failed marriages were involved in marital counseling, but, as you can see, the counseling did not fair too well.

    It took me time to chose to get into a third marriage, because I was gun-shy, to say the least. And while all three women claimed to love the Lord, my third wife loves Him enough to be His hand of healing in my heart over the 30 years we've been together.

    You see, if I believed that God gave up on those who fail at marriage, I'd still be living in a life of sexual sin and porn. God not only convinced me that He still loved me, but, He showed that love by fully restoring ministry to me, after I repented of past sins and followed Him with all my heart and soul.

    I can only tell those who've been where you once walked, and, where I was dwelt, God is the God of second and third, and fourth chances for those whom He has saved and written their name in the Lamb's Book of Life!!!

    Again, I'm happy that you found happiness after an abusive relationship. The fact that you were smart enough and strong enough to get out and find a new love, is a testament to what God can do for those who love and trust Him.:thumbsup:

    Pastor Paul :type:
     
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    Pastor Paul,
    When you give marriage counseling, do you believe your previous divorces give you a better insight into helping those couples who are going thur a shaky marriage. Also are they aware your your past?
     

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