Featured Repentance

Accidentally posted twice while trying to edit.

 

A person must be sorry for their sins and believe in the forgiveness of God. Judas would have to believe that God forgave him.
It does not make sense that a person would repent and not be sorry for their sins. It makes even less sense to believe God would give His Spirit to someone who is not sorry for their sins. Repenting of sins is to turn away from the sin. Do you know why John the Baptist was arrested? Read about it, and maybe you will understand that one must be sorry for their sins and turn from them.
As for you constantly saying, “The Bible does not teach to repent of your sins, particularly all of your sins,” the Bible does say repent of your sins.

 

The Bible may teach repentance, but it does not teach about being sorry for one's sins. Being sorry for your sins won't get you anywhere. It certainly won't get one to heaven. It didn't get Judas to heaven. I am sure that at the end of his life the "other thief" was sorry for what he had done, but it didn't help him either.

 

Here's the way I look at it. Repentance involves suddenly seeing your sin and your sinfulness the same way God looks at it, and being horrified by it. Confessing your sin is basically saying, I see my sin the same way God does, and I'm a dead as a result.

There is also some fear there, at least in my experience. When the Holy Spirit showed me my sin (at age 9), all those sermons about Hell I had heard came flooding in, and it scared the living daylights out of me.

It also involves some degree of despair, so that you run as hard as you can (figuratively, of course) to the One who has promised to deliver those who trust Him.

 

Ann, you agree with me on something.

Let us see if DHK goes against you for saying "it has an aspect of sorrow..."

 

The Bible does not say that anywhere.

Calvinists keep repeating those scriptures that they were lead away with…when you say, “No man seeks after God…” that scripture Paul used to explain that the Jews who were God’s chosen sinned just like the Gentiles. What is King David saying where Paul quotes? At that time, it is a sad state of affairs inside Israel. When the day arrived, no one searched for God. Later, they repented, and searched for God. During slavery in Egypt, the Jewish people asked God, if he had forgotten them. How could they do so, if THEY were not wondering where He had disappeared? In the New Testament, when Jesus arrived, people shouted: “Son of David, have mercy on me”. They were looking for the Messiah. In the New Testament a blind man was searching for the Son of God, the prophet’s had said would come.

Worldly sorrow is sorrow over not being rich enough, or not being famous, etc…
Of course, we must feel sorry for our sins. What do you mean they keep doing it and doing it? You sound like you never gave up any sins because of Jesus.
What do you think repent or perish means?

 

What do you think repent or perish means.
I can guarantee you if they had simply apologized and said: "I'm sorry, I'm sorry," they would have perished.
Being sorry for your sins is not repentance. That is not a proper definition of repentance. Instead of me defining it again for you, go back and read the many posts and see how many have already defined it for you. You are not paying attention to what others are telling you what repentance is.

I am not a Calvinist. I don't agree with some of what is said here concerning regeneration and salvation. But we all agree on the basic definition of repentance, and you don't understand what it is. It is not being sorry for your sins.

 

Repent are perish means just that, repent from your sins or perish. What do you think it means? Tell me so we can see what the Word says.

Are you saying that they are sorry for their sins, or are you saying they are just saying it to say?

I do not agree with you, it does not mean I do not understand. It means I do not agree with you. You keep talking nonsense about repenting. We have to be sorry for our sins and turn from them. Please read this definition from the dictionary, and stop finally saying repent does not mean being sorry for sins.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/repent

re•pent 1 (r -p nt )
v. re•pent•ed, re•pent•ing, re•pents
v.intr.
1. To feel remorse, contrition, or self-reproach for what one has done or failed to do; be contrite.
2. To feel such regret for past conduct as to change one's mind regarding it: repented of intemperate behavior.
3. To make a change for the better as a result of remorse or contrition for one's sins.
v.tr.
1. To feel regret or self-reproach for: repent one's sins.
2. To cause to feel remorse or regret.

 

thefreedictionary.com is a dictionary that has many modern definitions.

Over the years, word meanings have changed. Webster's 1828 Dictionary gives this definition of repentance:

As one can see, the definition from 1828 to present has not changed dramatically. Prior to 1828, the word may have had a different meaning.

But it is evident over the last century the definition has indeed meant a sorrow, whether worldly or godly, for sin.

 

2 Corinthians 7:9 Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.
2 Corinthians 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

Godly sorrow concerns itself with God. It means to change one's mind and attitude toward God, to sorrow for the fact that one has sinned against Him. It is the product of the Word of God. Godly sorrow results in a change in one's actions.

Acts 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

On the other hand, the sorrow of the world concerns itself with self and with temporal lose. It is merely to sorrow for the trouble that one's sins have brought upon one's self and upon others. The sorrow of the world does not result in salvation or sanctification, but only in death. It's "I'm sorry I got caught"....worldly remorse. Judas Iscariot had the sorrow of the world over his actions, and he hung himself. Had he had godly sorrow, he would have turned to God in repentance and faith and been saved.

 

Paul says "godly sorrow WORKETH repentance" he does not say "godly sorrow" IS repentance!

Furthermore, the "repentance" Paul speaks about is "to salvation NOT TO BE REPENTED OF" In other words it is effectual to salvation that will not change! Bibical "repentance" is INSEPARABLE from justifying faith. To turn FROM sin is to turn TO Christ for salvation from sin.

Last, it is not repentance of "SINS" plural but of "sin" singular!

 

Notice that the verse you quoted deals with repentance toward God and faith toward Jesus Christ.
But "Godly sorrow" only comes from a passage in 2Cor.7 which is written to Christians. The unsaved cannot have Godly sorrow. If we change your definition just a little you have one of the most accurate definitions of repentance yet posted.

Repentance concerns itself with God. It means to change one's mind and attitude toward God, to realize the fact that one has sinned against Him. It is the product of the Word of God. Repentance results in a change in one's actions.
--That is a good definition of what repentance is.
It is a change in one's mind and attitude toward God. Once the mind was rebellious in his attitude toward God. Then a change occurred (salvation). Now the mind is submissive in his attitude toward God. There has been a change--a 180 degree turn about. Once the sinner was bound to hell, now he is a saint bound to heaven. Once he was in a state of rebellion to God; now he is in a state of submission to God. That is repentance.

 

Look in post #55

Being sorry for your sins doesn't make the cut. Many people feel sorry for their sins. That doesn't make them saved.

These are modern-day secular definitions. They are not Biblical definitions. Find a Biblical definition for repentance. I have given you one in post #55.

 

A Biblical Definition?

Would one from ISBE suffice?

Those are ISBE's definitions for the New Testament word "Repentance.

ISBE also defines other elements of Repentance:

Intellectual
Emotional
Volitional

From the above definitions, one can still see sorrow for ones sins is one of the elements that make up a godly repentance.

 

The Complete Word Study Dictionary of the New Testament has a rather lengthy article concerning the word "Repentance". Here is just a portion of that article:

 

It is basic knowledge that even a fool can understand…repent is feeling sorry for sins. I gave you the English dictionary meaning of repent and you still do not believe. Calvinism has seeped in to the so-called non-Calvinists. John Calvin is the one who said that repentance is repenting of not believing in God. Think about it, Jesus says repent of sins, and someone comes along and says God does not mean repent of your sins…such confusion at work! Think about this too, the confusing and harmful teaching of telling people they cannot be sorry for their sinful actions, not until after Jesus saves them can they feel remorse. It is confusion and mockery.

Repentance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repentance
The Protestant reformer John Calvin said that repentance "may be justly defined to be “a true conversion of our life to God, proceeding from a serious fear of God ...

 

It is fools that reject knowledge.
The Bible was not written in English.
We don't carry the mentality: "If the KJV was good enough for Paul then it is good enough for me."
The NT was written in Greek, and therefore we gain our definitions from the Greek words used.

In the post above some of the definitions of those words were posted. Here is one of them posted by Steadfast Fred:

It is close to the same as I gave you. But you don't want to hear the truth do you. You reject truth.

Can you prove that? Or is it slander? Why don't you look up John Calvin's commentaries and see. His commentaries are on the internet. Look up what he says on John 3:16.

Who says that? I don't know of anyone. More slander.

Sorrow for sin is not repentance. But you cannot be taught. You won't even listen to a dictionary.