Repenting of sin-Once saved always saved

Folks, we all (myself included) need to try and discontinue posts like this one, ok?

If you have an inclination to post something like this, please don't, from this time forward when a post like this is seen I will delete it asap, OSAS, or OSCBLA or whatever.

Bro. Dallas </font>[/QUOTE]I have no idea where you're coming from. I'm simply stating that OSAS makes people feel comfortable in their sin. There is no personal attack. It's simply an observation.

 

is not the teaching that one can fall from grace a crutch? it is like you can not trust yourself to do what is right unless you have something to lose. sounds like law and punishment to me. I'll take grace and mercy instead.

 

OK, I'm going to quote a quote which someone else quoted and didn't name

On the contrary, Paul calls the Corinthian Christians "carnal".

1 Corinthians 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?

Basically when we act according to the flesh then we are carnal.

When we snap at our spouse.
When we do 26 MPH in a 25 MPH zone.
When we eat more calories than our bodies require.
When we do not pray without ceasing.
When we perpetuate strife.
etc, etc, etc.

HankD

 

Ever since this post of Frogman you have been acting overly sensitive about your relationship with Christ, and believe that Frogman is attacking when such is not the case.

That is not an attack against you; it is a rebuttal against your position.
"How can you deny his Word," that is in reference to the teaching of OSAS, and the meaning of eternal, when it means eternal and not temporary? The questions seem to obvious. They are asked in zeal, yes; but also in sincerity.
To go and post with this martyr complex of yours does your position no good. Take a dose of your own medicine and address the topic with Scripture. This is a debate forum, not a complaint forum.
DHK

 

It appears to me that Frogman wants to introduce into our discussion the doctrine of the preservation of the saints. Others may wish to introduce into our discussion the doctrine of the perseverance of the saints. Both of these doctrines are highly complex and can scarcely be discussed intelligently on a message board unless all of the participants have a considerable amount of knowledge of both the Bible and its theology and a thorough knowledge of ancient Greek and its development up through the time of Koine Greek. Therefore I am now taking my leave of this thread, but before I go I wish to thank those who have participated in our discussions. May our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ richly bless you and your families.

 

Thank you for your contribution in the face of the usual adversity that accompanies this topic.

 

Now, if you wish report my post to the moderators.

Bro. Dallas Eaton </font>[/QUOTE]Please read all the scripture that both Craig and I have posted which refute your stance. You might be a moderator but you can't dictate what I can and can not believe based on my own study of the Bible and prayer. Perpetrators of OSAS are leading a lot of people down the path to perdition. But, they FEEL REAL GOOD ON THE WAY. </font>[/QUOTE]And this from someone who has sent me at least five post alerts???

I really don't care what you believe or don't believe because it isn't what you believe that granted you eternal life. It is what you believe that grants you knowledge of the peace of God through the reconciliation you have in Christ.

Whether you believe that or not He cannot deny Himself.

If His Spirit is in you, you are His. If His Spirit is not in you, you are none of His (myself included).

Moderator or not, I have no interest in dictating anything regarding your belief. That is the problem with you and those who believe like you, no one can be saved except they line up with you; I read the Bible for myself, I need no Bible scholar to tell me what it says, No historical church interpretation, no insecure believer to tell me what is and is not. No special Greek expositor, Grammarian or logistician. The imputation of the Righteousness of God through Christ is by the Sound of His voice and no man's.

Bro. Dallas

 

The Doctrines of Grace, which include the Eternal security (better stated as Eternal Surity because Christ is our Surity and not ourselves) are a very humbling set of doctrines. They teach man that he is but dust, that he cannot save, keep nor insure his salvation, neither in time or eternity.

These doctrines are much more humbling than thinking that one could walk away because they teach us that we are to live a godly life because of our calling, yet they teach us that we are unable to do that except we die to ourselves and live to God through Christ.

Whether or not you believe the doctrines of Grace has nothing to do with whether you are a regenerated elect child of God. Belief of the Gospel message brings to light the life and immortality of the Son of God indwelling in you through regeneration. That Spirit works out from you that life that has been created new in the inward man, all the while the outward man will stumble, run, fall, rebel, and make grievous war with that Spirit, but because you are His you cannot be 'lost'. He is unchangeable, he is Eternal, He is spotless, He alone possesses the Righteousness of God and in Him alone is declared that Righteousness that exceeds the righteousness of the Pharisees.

And all this peace and understanding is available to whosoever will call upon him, with our without a ph.d; an understanding of the original languages, usage, grammar, or any other degree or lack of degree of education. Why? Because God speaks the simplest most common language that all who Hear His call know and follow.

May God Bless,
Bro. Dallas

 

AMEN BROTHER! Finally we agree on something

 

Actually, I've NEVER heard it preached and I've been a member of SBC and ABC churches and attended independent Baptist churches and churches of other denominations for 50 years. It's a message that is absolutely vital to get out because so many Christians feel comfortable with their OSAS beliefs and live exactly like their unsaved neighbors.

 

RightFromWrong and Everyone else,
Someone tell me who began the false teaching that an eternal act of God could be undone?

Do Baptists practice church discipline? What are the objectives of church discipline?

Do any other denominations practice discipline? What are the objects of their discipline?

What is discipline when it is called excommunication ?

What does excommunication mean?

Bro. Dallas

 

First question, I don't think there is a page limit rule on this forum, was that thread on this forum?</font>[/QUOTE]Here's the post where C4K mentioned the 20 page limit just before he administered it. Euthanasia, I believe it's called.

Or maybe the thread just backslid and is out of fellowship. Either way, it's gone.

 

I believe this thread has run its course.
Feel free to start a new one if you so desire.
DHK