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Republican Congressman assaults student caught on video: mainstream media goes nuts

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by JohnDeereFan, Jun 14, 2010.

  1. Dragoon68

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    Perhaps he wanted to view the video just to see how much he might have to admit and "apologize" about?
     
  2. saturneptune

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    Your statement "Oh, you wouldn't say this if it was a Republican, nonsense" is backed up by the threads you have started. You said that you never started a thread on the other ten because threads were already started. What difference does that make? It seems very odd that this individual is free and clear of threads, but the other ten "had threads started." Even if they did, multiple threads are going everyday.

    As far as your ten to twelve year track record of being a Constitutionalist/conservative, I would have no idea, since you have only been posting here a small amount of time.

    My point is omission sometimes reveals true feelings. How many threads did you start during the Bush years, especially towards the end of his term, about his massive government spending and other liberal policies, such as refusing to control the borders? Since Obama took office, how many threads have you started on Republican scandals or policies that betray their conservative label?

    As much as I dislike the Democrats and their policies, they make it quite clear what they are. Obama made it quite clear what his agenda was during the election and was elected anyhow. Republicans on the other hand, hide behind the triple idea of morality, conservatism, and governing by the Constitution. The fact is they govern like liberals, maybe not as extreme as their opponents, but certainly not what they are advertising. They use conservative principles for nothing more than pandering for votes. Their is no core belief behind their cause.

    The solution is to forget the parties and elect people to Congress who will fix the problem of liberal/socialist policies.
     
  3. JohnDeereFan

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    Thank you. I accept your apology.

    It makes a big difference because where there is a thread, there is no need to start another thread on the same topic.

    That's right. You have no idea. And yet, you still assume that you know my motivation and my political beliefs.

    Again, probably none, because there were already threads on those subjects.

    I find it interesting that you're only concerned with how many threads I started as opposed to how many already existing threads I posted in, or how often I criticized Bush.

    This is a very common tactic on the left: to demand that conservatives criticize conservatives (or, in this case, Bush, who was not even a conservative) before they're allowed to criticize anyone on the left, but then refuse to ever criticize anyone on the left, themselves.

    I haven't started any, but I've posted in dozens.

    And yet, when I say this, you accuse me of being a "Republican apologist".
     
  4. carpro

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    The real story is not that a congressman, regardless of party, temporarily lost his cool.

    The real story is the difference of media coverage and public outrage generated by continuous coverage that does depends on which party the congressman is a member of.

    This congressman's behavior was particularly egregious, but hardly a peep out of the media because he's a democrat. A republican...any republican... that behaved in such a fashion would have been endlessly excoriated by the press.
     
  5. saturneptune

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    Another example of either not reading posts or not understanding. If you will reread the posts above, just a few inches up, and take it for what it says, you will see that every post of mine and most others said exactly what to do with this particular NC Democrat Congressman. I believe transporting him to the camp in Arizona was mentioned. I believe you could call that criticizing the left.

    As far as the first part of your statement, nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, it is that exact mindset that elected Obama in the first place. It is those Republicans who gave Bush a free pass, turned the other way, and pretended for eight years that he was conservative that caused the result of the 06 and 08 elections. That also goes for the pretending of the six year Republican Congress, with Mitch McConnell as its leader. Did you happen to notice that Mitch McConnell opposed Rand Paul in the Republican Senate primary? By the way, he got 59% of the vote. By the time the 08 election rolled around, most true, and I say true, conservatives stayed at home, and viola, you have Barack Obama. His election can be put right at the doorstep of liberal, wishy washy Republicans.

    Until the anger is turned against the established Republicans as much as the established Democrats, until it dawns on everyone that the divide is not Democrats and Republicans but both of them together vs Constitutional government, until will stop electing the same old thieves time after time, nothing is going to change.
     
  6. JohnDeereFan

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    Agreed. I'm always reminded of the way Trent Lott was run out of town for wishing happy birthday to an old man who long ago repented of his segregationist ways, but Chris Dodd was given a pass when he made similar comments about a former Klansman who, according to his actions, still harbors great animosity toward blacks. Both occurred within just a few months of each other and the circumstances were very similar, but the way the press handled the two was like night and day.
     
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    The righties cries about the media ring hollow and disingenuous. When "conservative" views dominate talk radio, and the GOP has its own "news" network, you can hardly blame the media for favoring Democrats with a straight face.
     
  8. Ruiz

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    To a point I agree with you, but to a point I disagree. Talk radio is not trying to be unbiased, or put on the clothing of being unbiased. Like Air America, talk radio was upfront with their beliefs.

    Personally, I do not think any group or organization can be unbiased. I believe it is more intellectually honest to convey what worldview you are reporting from rather than pretend to be unbiased. World Magazine does convey their worldview. I respect their honesty. I only wish the other news networks including Fox, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and NBC would be as honest.
     
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    Bias is bias, any way you slice it. Conservative radio does not pretend to be unbiased.
    I am not surprised you approve of the liberal bias of the corrupt old media.

    abcnbcmcnbcfoxcnnnytlatcnbccbs all claim to be "news" outlets. "News", by it's nature, is unbiased. It is what it is. The corrupt old media is severely biased in what they choose to cover as "news".

    No sane person would bother to deny it. You have shown you are, at least, sane.
     
  10. JohnDeereFan

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    The difference is that these talk shows are commentary, not journalism.

    The MSM claim to be journalists, which means that they have an obligation to be neutral and unbiased.
     
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    Why does anyone take them seriously if this is true?
     
  12. carpro

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    You'll have to ask the rabid left. Conservatives take the views and commentaries of conservative talk show hosts seriously , but don't look to them for "news", except for perhaps the things the leftist media likes to ignore or hide.

    Only liberals like to pretend conservative commentators are real "news" people.
     
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    Seems a contradiction to say you do not look to them for news but you take them seriously.
     
  14. carpro

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    :laugh: Only to the rabid left.
     
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    I hope the guy doesn't resign. That will give the good folks of NC some satisfaction as they throw this pompous little man out on his pompous little duff.
     
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