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Featured Republican Resigns After Racially Charged 'Daily Show' Interview

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Zaac, Oct 26, 2013.

  1. Zaac

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    CTB, it's just another reason why the GOP is becoming irrelevant. It's not that the Dems have a better plan. It's because those in the GOP continue to express their bigotry as though it's a good thing and that it really shouldn't be viewed as bigotry because they've tried to dress it up.

    I can see members of the church taking a Biblical stand on issues. But this not so "blatant" racial bigotry that gets repeated by conservatives in the Church because they heard it from one of the conservative media outlets is perhaps just another wicked reason why he very things they don't want, they keep getting more of.
     
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    I guess you two want to self-congratulate one another without actually defending the nonsense you post, hm?

    Well, good. It's time for football anyway.
     
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    You want the truth Zaac? Here's the truth. It's in the best interest of government to keep us divided and bickering amongst ourselves. On the left we have divisionists like Obama and the collectivist media using "civil rights" as a wedge to divide us.

    "You don't like illegal immigration? You must be a racist!"

    You can't see through that? Really?

    Any American with an ounce of common sense should be able to tell when someone is pushing division. I'm sick of seeing liberal "civil rights" leaders using the people they claim to represent as door mats so they can maintain their celebrity status while pushing racial divisions.

    Guys like Sharpton and Jackson are all for guys like Sharpton and Jackson. Period. They like the limelight. They crave the attention and if they have to walk all over their own people to get it that's fine with them.

    If MLK were alive today I highly doubt he'd have anything nice to say to them because they are posing as something they are not.

    It's not racist to say entitlement programs weaken those they claim to help. It's the truth. Government especially a collectivist government seeks to make everyone dependent on government for their existence. People that are dependent on government are easier to control than people that are free to pursue happiness without government coercion.

    You are a divisionist Zaac. You constantly attack republicans for the evil they commit while trying to distract us from the evil the democrats commit.

    Leftie vs rightie = division.

    That's the old way of doing things and it has to change or we're going to end up as a pauper nation hopelessly dependent on a government that sees us as nothing more than cash cows and threats to big brothers power and control. Is that what you want for America?

    You've heard a house divided cannot stand right?

    We have enough people in this country working to divide us and keep us at each other's throats already. We should be calling them all out and exposing them for what they are instead of taking sides and repeating the talking points of the day.

    We can longer afford the luxury of debating important issues as leftie vs rightie. We've wasted enough time and energy on all that. We have to adopt a new paradigm of right vs wrong and do it quickly or "government of by and for the people" is going to disappear from the earth and we're all going to be to blame for it.

    In this country from it's founding and even before it has always been about liberty vs tyranny but somewhere along the lines we've let the divisionists frame every debate as leftie vs rightie and while we've been sucked into this false paradigm tyranny has flourished. We need to get back to our roots and heritage of resisting every form of tyranny instead of turning a blind eye to the tyranny of "our side" for the sake of some petty grudge or misplaced loyalty to a particular political party.
     
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  4. Zaac

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    Did I say that I couldn't see through that? :laugh:

    Folks like Sharpton and Jackson are doing the exact same things as Sean, Rush, Boortz, Levin and Drudge.

    He's dead so ain't no need to presume what he would say today. The guy who was there with him is alive and he called the mess out.

    Where have I said racist anything?

    I've never said that I didn't agree with this.

    Moi, a divisionist? Not hardly. I just see the constant division coming from the GOP on this board in nearly every thread. I choose to show that the GOP side stinks just as much as certain individuals try to portray the Dems in an unfavorable light in everything.

    If THAT makes me a divisionist, then I'll wear the hat.

    You see leftie vs rightie. I see juxtaposition.

    Now now. It is indeed a Biblical principle. But if you really believed that you wouldn't have directed that comment solely to me in the face of the endless threads on this board that are directed against one side.

    Umm that's what I said because that's what folks on this board do with the talking points from the conservative media outlets. It's exactly what the guy in NC did.
     
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    When the Republicans instituted their Southern strategy and became Boll Weevil Republicans replacing the Boll Weevil Democrats I knew it was time to reassess which party I was registered as a member of. What Nixon and Reagan could never have imagined, an unintended consequence as it were. They, unknowingly, allowed an angry group into their house, but the current GOP leaders have not been able to keep it in its cage. They have escaped and are eating the hand the fed them for many years. They have become more sophisticated in their language, but the blatant words are there simply changed into code words. This is understandable as blatant racist words and comments have become taboo in our society ... so the comments, for the most part, have simply changed. My guess is that most people on the BB are too young to have heard the term Boll Weevil Democrat ... and I bet most are too urban to know what a boll weevil is.

    In a few more generations there will be few left that hold such extreme views, IMHO.

    This is not to say that all Republicans are racists, but there are enough in the party and certainly enough in the Tea Party to give the entire group big problems.











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  6. Zaac

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    Well said.:applause:
     
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    Zaac gets mad because guys like Rush and Hannity point out the race baiting of the left. He wants his ilk protected. So he tries to pain that action as the same thing. No reasonable person could see it that way.
     
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    Why would I get mad at that? Y'all seem to get mad when it's pointed out that ain't no difference between the race baiting that you claim Sharpton and Jackson do than there is between the race baiting that Sean, Rush and those on conservative media outlets do when presenting their info to y'all. It incenses a bunch of angry white people into becoming angrier white people who run around trying to convince folks that their unGodly bigotry isn't bigotry at all because they've changed the terminology.

    Sounds like you want your ilk protected. I don't give a flying hoo hoo about either party. My concern arises when folks in the church, as evidenced on this board, present the same old bigotries as does their party of choice based upon what they hear in the media as did the gentleman from NC, and then thinks no one is gonna call the UnGodliness what it is.

    Some of you are just too caught up in your politics to recognize the unGodliness. But the continued wickedness coming out of the church, that some in the church are forever trying to justify, is why the country and the world are where they are.
     
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    You didn't say you could. And you haven't been speaking like you can.

    Exactly so why should we defend either side if both are corrupt?

    And yet Sharpton and Jackson are still sowing division. Why? Same ole story. Money, power and control.

    Where have I said you did?

    So we can agree on something.

    I understand all that. Have you ever seen me try to defend tyranny from the republicans? Or make excuses for their tyranny? I call them on it all the time.

    But why would want to?


    Mostly I see both sides repeating talking points like parrots. It looks to me like "oh yeah, well my daddy can whup your daddy" going on for thousands of pages while the root causes of our problems are ignored and/or ridiculed because they aren't part of the total talking points package. It's crazy and a total waste of time and energy.

    Where has it gotten us? Has it made the country better? Has it made us more prosperous? Has it protected our liberties? Has it made us any smarter?

    I directed my comments to you because I have seen you running cover for tyrants in the democrat party more often than calling them out for their tyranny. There's enough of that to go around on both sides.

    Both parties have sold their souls to the bankers and corporations. Neither party represents we the people. They'll throw us all under the bus in a New York minute if they think it'll secure them another term in office. They should all be looking out of prison cells (with very few exceptions) for the damage they have done to this country and the rule of law.

    The way I see it Zaac you picked out an example of one individual's stuidity and tried to blame a whole group for it.

    Obama and the democrats have painted themselves into a corner with all their big government failures and lawlessness. They deserve to be raked over the coals for the damage they have caused same as the republicans. Republicans aren't what I would call defenders of freedom and I've always pointed out their anti liberty programs and how they are marching us towards totalitarian government but these liberal corporatist democrats of today have taken the march towards totalitarian government to a whole new level and we're speeding towards it at warp speed now.

    They have to be stopped if we're going to stay a free and independent nation. But hey if you're more concerned about what republicans are doing or saying than defending your country from becoming a failed state then by all means stay focused on shifting the blame.
     
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    I didn't say that I couldn't either. You're making assumptions based upon me calling the majority on this board out. Ain't no need for me to point out the liberal side as the majority already do that.

    I haven't defended either side. I've said repeatedly they are all in cahoots. And I have said repeatedly that Sharpton and Jackson are doing the same thing as Sean, Rush and the conservative crew.

    And that's the same reason Sean, Rush and Drudge are doing it. Ratings give them money and money gives them more power. Keep the angry folks angry and it'll keep the ratings up and make for more expensive ads and more money. Yep. Doing the exact same thing.

    In a response directed to me unless you stuck my name there by mistake you said
    I didn't say anything about racism so why are you raising the issue of racism to me?

    We agree on a lot of somethings :laugh:

    As I said, we agree on a lot of somethings.

    Why would I want to what? Be viewed as a divisionist amongst folks who predominantly blame one side for everything?

    As you mentioned about the truth in re the social programs, what I say about the GOP is the truth. I'm viewed as a divisionist because I point out that the side the majority on this board loves is just as guilty of doing the things they claim to be so against as are the Dems.

    As I said before, I don't give a flying hoo hoo about political parties. My concern goes right back to these people on this board representing the church espousing the very same ideas and sentiments as the man from NC because their politics means more to them than righteousness. It's wicked no matter how they try to justify it.


    Which is why I post in juxtaposition to what the majority are posting to make the point that both sides are the same. So on this board, why are we, GOD's representatives to the world, caught up in it and doing the same thing as the man from NC and attempting to justify it in much the same way as we tried to justify supporting a Presidential candidate who is against Christ?

    It is the continued wickedness coming out of the church that we continue to try to justify that keeps the world in its spiral down.

    And like on this board, folks love their politics so much that they will refuse to recognize it.


    Gosh, I don't know where you've seen that. I just choose to point out the equally as foolish tyranny coming from the side that the majority on this board supports. They got the other side covered. :laugh:

    Something else we agree on.

    The way I see it is that I picked out an example of a man on one side saying the same things and representing the same attitudes that I see on this board daily. And it just do happens I har the same thing on talk radio and the other conservative media outlets daily. It's obvious where the talking points are coming from when you've heard someone else say it first.

    Right along with the folks on the other side who have been equally complicit.
     
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    I'm glad the guy in the O/P resigned. If only democrats were able to feel such shame.
     
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    Shoot, they long since got past that. :laugh: Add a little spin, accept responsibility, and run again while telling them that a bigoted Republican is the alternative and they're back in unashamed.
     
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    When was the last time you saw a democrat accept responsibility ?
     
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    No I was making assumptions based on how you use Jesus to beat people up that disagree with you.


    Right now Obama and and the corporatist dems are the ones that need to be reigned in and held accountable. There'll be plenty of time to hold the repubs accountable later. If there is a later.


    Exactly and in the meantime we're all the losers.

    So you can speak in generalities but I can't is that it? I was refering the way Obama and the dems roll out their talking points. Picking out examples of stupidity of individuals and trying to blame a whole group.

    Because you should be one of the few people here who can see how the race card game is played by the dems to score political points with the minorities they are sticking it to, Zaac.

    Actually we do.


    Yes you said that already.

    Most of the folks here practice divisionsm if there's such a word. You said so yourself when you were complaining about the republicans. So how is acting like the rest of the divisionists here suposed to help unite us. Don't get me wrong I'm just as guilty as the next guy but I'm starting to see the total waste of time and energy it has been.

    One of the founders said "we must all hang together or we will surely hang separately", can't recall who said it but it seem pertinent at this moment because we are so divided in this nation.

    I agree but like I said right now is the time to hold Obama and the dems accountable. I don't like to take sides with the republicans any more than you do but we have a common foe to battle. Right now it's the dems.

    If I had my way everyone would base their convictions on the bible the declaration of independence and the constitution and hold the feet of everyone that violates them to the fire but sad as it is party loyalty seems to trump all three these days.


    I agree. I thought it was a mistake for the church to get into politics from the beginning. The church's job is to educate us in how to live righteously and identify the dangers of this world so we can avoid them not be a hedge against "liberalism". From the discussions I've read on this board most Christians view "liberalism" as the number one enemy. We have been conditioned to the point of fixation on one problem to the exclusion of all others. It took decades to become this programed Zaac deprogramming isn't going to happen over night.


    Decades of bad sermons and corporate programing.

    Then the place to make changes would the church right?

    Tribal instincts. Everyone likes to be part of a like minded group.

    Yes they do but beating people over the head with Jesus isn't going to do much good imho. No one likes to hear from somebody that comes off as being self righteous. I know you mean well Zaac and I agree with you on a bunch of stuff but gee golly wow man we go to church to be preached to. We come here to vent our frustration with government.

    We all need to vent a little sometime and this is a good place to do it.

    Good.

    You know how I lowered my blood pressure? I stopped listening to talk radio. I don't need some partisan hack telling me how to think and what to think about.

    I can figure out what to think about on my own. Do yourself a favor turn that garbage off it's a waste of time and you'll be all the happier for it.

    Most of us don't know any better and we all have to face that on our own terms. Believe me when I tell ya there have been times here when I wanted to pull my hair out and throw my computer out the window because I haven't been able to change people's minds about things.

    In the end all I can do is put the information in front of them and hope some of it sinks in. I tried beating people up. It doesn't work they only harden their hearts more because of it.
     
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    Truman, who famously said, "The buck stops here." He was a conservative, too, not an empty-headed liberal.

    I'm pretty sure that's the last time any of them took responsibility for anything. Since then, the saying among Democrats and Republicans alike has been, "That's not my buck."
     
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    I think this guy did the right thing by stepping down. That's accepting responsibility. Good for him.
     
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    You saw it right here. There's a poster who put up false info from a spoof source, and stands by it, and has been actually congratulated by another poster for doing so.

    This is a surreal world.
     
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    I missed that, which one are you talking about?
     
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    Our current mayor's term of office. He took a hidden deficit ... hidden by the former administration ... paid it off, changed the budge and is now running a surplus.
     
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