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Republicans Reject Democrat's Draft

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by leesw, Oct 6, 2004.

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  1. leesw

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    http://www.talonnews.com/news/2004/october/1006_house_rejects_draft.shtml

    WASHINGTON (Talon News) -- The Republican-controlled House of Representatives overwhelmingly rejected a Democratic bill Tuesday that would reinstate the draft, 402-2. The vote was scheduled to silence a Democratic whispering campaign that accused President Bush of having a secret plan to restart the draft if he were reelected. Only Congress could authorize an involuntary call-up.

    The legislation, sponsored by Rep. Charles Rangel (DEMOCRAT-NY), declared that it is the obligation of every U.S. citizen, and every other person residing in the United States, between the ages of 18 and 26 to perform a two-year period of national service, either as a member of an active or reserve component of the armed forces or in a civilian capacity that promotes national defense. Sen. Ernest Hollings (DEMOCRAT-SC) introduced identical legislation in the Senate.

    House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX) issued a statement about the Democrats' proposal that he said was being considered in order to expose a fraud.

    "For months now, the American people have been subjected to -- and had their intelligence insulted by -- a manipulative, dishonest, and willful campaign of misinformation," DeLay said. "This campaign, which started as a whisper but has since been given voice by the leading Democrats in the country today, asserts without any evidence whatsoever that there is a secret Republican plan to reinstitute the military draft."

    DeLay continued, "This campaign is a baseless and malevolent concoction of the Democrat Party, and everyone in this chamber knows it. It has one purpose -- to spread fear. To spread fear among an unsuspecting public, to undermine the war on terror, to undermine our troops, to undermine our cause, and most of all, to undermine our commander-in-chief ... in an election year."

    Kerry surrogates have been telling young people and parents across the country that Bush would reinstate the draft, despite the fact that both Bush and the Pentagon have denied that it is even being considered.

    Read more at http://www.talonnews.com/news/2004/october/1006_house_rejects_draft.shtml

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    #1 leesw, Oct 6, 2004
  2. JGrubbs

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    With a vote of 402-2 it's not only the Republicans that rejected the bill. Even Charles Rangel, D-N.Y, urged Democrats to vote against the bill, and he is the one who sponsored the bill. Just two lawmakers, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., and Rep. Pete Stark, D-Calif., struck off on their own and voted for the measure.

    The original post makes it sound like the majority of the Democrats and Charles Rangel were actually in favor of the draft. They only introduced this bill to bring the issue of the draft in relation to the Bush quest for nation building in the Middle East to the public attention.
     
    #2 JGrubbs, Oct 6, 2004
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    "Young people in America deserve an honest and open debate about the possibility of a draft. Neither side has offered up what they're going to do to meet the current and future military needs." --Jay Strell
     
    #3 JGrubbs, Oct 6, 2004
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    That was probably the intention. If the GOP is to stay in power, they need to continue to deceive Christian Right. Of course, that doesn't seem to take much.
     
    #4 Pennsylvania Jim, Oct 6, 2004
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    Tom Delay do something dishonest? :eek:
     
    #5 The Galatian, Oct 6, 2004
  6. Pastor Larry

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    It seems to me that a bill offered by two Democrats and no Republicans is a "Democratic bill" and "democrats proposal." If it is sponsored by Dems and no Repubs, how can it be anything other than a Democratic bill?

    In recent weeks there has been talk by Kerry and other Dems that Bush would reinstate the draft if re-elected. Ignoring for the moment, that Bush has no power to do that, the Congress gave a resounding statement that the draft was not coming back. It was bi-partisan in nature and should "silence the whispering campaign."

    This was a total publicity stunt by Delay, but it doesn't appear, at least from this article, that he did anythign dishonset. Nor does the original post make it sound like a majority of Democrats were in favor of the bill. The second line gives the vote as 402-2, which means that there wasn't a majority of anyone supporting this bill. Its own sponsor didn't even believe in it, which makes you wonder why he sponsored the bill. Political stunt??? Certainly.

    What seems dishonest to me is for Kerry to suggest Bush would bring the draft back when it fact it was two of his own party, two of his supporters that were interested in bringing the draft back.

    I think charges of dishonesty by Delay seem misplaced here since I don't see anything in the article that Delay said that was incorrect.Delay has a load of his own problems and should do the right thing and resign from Congress. He apparently is a crook and has no integrity, based on the reports about his escapades.
     
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    What gives any indication that this is intended to deceive the Christian right?
     
    #7 Pastor Larry, Oct 6, 2004
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