Republicians Giving Up?

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    http://thepage.time.com/

    I wonder what the truth really is? Perhaps this is correct, perhaps it is not.
     
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    I don't know about them but it seems that when the Dems are in trouble they start the fear mongering over the Social Security/Medicare demise by Republicans. Obama has started filling the airwaves with these lies here in the State of Florida. I think that he is giving up on Florida.
     
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    I am not sure what is being said in Florida. But I do know that in Maryland many doctors are opting out of Medicare because of cuts in the fees. Many say they loose money on each Medicare patient they see.

    What are they saying in Florida?
     
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    http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/19ba2f1c-c03f-4ac2-8cd5-5cf2edb527cf.htm

    This is from the McCain website. The one I put in red is the talking point being questioned. Rewarding prevention and wellness is generally code ward for penalizing those who are sick and not as fit which is scary to Senior citizens and Obama is playing off that fear. This is no different than what McCain is doing with Joe the Plumber calling Obama socialist and continually bringing up the ACORN investigations.

    Reform is one thing but promising to cut $60 Million a year is really scaring Seniors like my mother who is having enough trouble getting the medical help she needs. His proposal has more red tape to its users written all over it.

     
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    From what I hear.......emphasize 'hear' as opposed to 'know', doctors are having a problem with Medicare here...... and I'm not supprised if its reflective of the national condition of the program.

    Nationally we are entering a shift with the baby boom of the mid-40's -50's entering into their years of retirement, increasing the burden on the program.
     
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    This and similar threats is cyclical:
    It returns again and again in every election... and preys upon the fears and the emotions of people.

    The reality to a thinking person is that budgets do need restrain. A limitless budget is a oxymoron.

    I worked as a psych tech for almost 22 years in a MH hospital. Funding was dependant on the public dollar as budgeted by the state. The Republican Party, at least until recently, has dominated this area. However, in the group in which I worked, the dominant party among the social workers, the administration, the patients, and the folks like the kitchen staff, house keeping, and many on the clinical floor was Democrat......in my opinion. I base this on the fact that every election year, 'in-house' were published the budgets and the proposed budgets of the state, and presumptions and opinions of various candidates and parties were expressed. Republicans were viewed as 'the shifters' in emphasis of budget according to needs and changing variables, and the Democrats were viewed as 'the establishers and sustainers and expanders' of programs.

    If you can convince people that if a politician of a certain persuasion wins, then you may loose your job due to funding, or you may loose your benefits due to program cuts, or loose your government contracts due to a shift in emphasis or loss whatever because you didn't flow (give support) with the influences.....
    Then 'feeling' people are persuaded more from their survival fears than are 'thinking' people who recognize that reality is that there must be some restraints:

    People should have choices, and governments should have limits. When promises are made for services and programs..... we are voting to take it from the pockets of ourselves and our neighbors and trusting that government will dispense it more efficiently and responsibly. We are encouraging people to believe that services offered can be sustained indefinately. In the meantime, there is so much redtape and levels between the budget at the top of a program to the services which are rendered at the grass roots that little is left on the level at which services are delivered .....both for those serving and those who are the beneficiaries.

    Every choice has consequences: The reality is that 'responsibility' means that some limitations must be acknowledged, faced, and accepted with a willingness to move through and make the best adaption to the situation.
     
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    Isn't this the same tactic used by the conservatives calling Obama a socialist and Muslim then questioning his connection to Ayres and ACORN?

    So I agree it's what happens in politics but both sides are equally guilty of playing the card.

    To add to the scare tactics, how about the volunteer who claimed a 6'4" black man attacked her. Isn't that about Obama's height? Wasn't that to raise fears of black men?
     
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