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Discussion in 'Calvinism/Arminianism Debate' started by Inspector Javert, Jun 23, 2014.
Once again I would like to thank God that he predestined me to be a non-Cal. Praise the Lord! Hallelujah!
here is your posting on this thread;
1]I can only assume you didn't so let me make sure your own statements sink into your thick skull...
2]it's simply that you either: Understand NOTHING about Calvinism
3]Are being deliberately obtuse
4] I won't state this option out loud.....
5]Let me explain the fundamentals of Calvinism and election according to Calvinism to you since you don't get them
6]I see you still need more tutoring into the fundamentals of Calvinism
7]You don't know the first thing about Calvinism do you Icon?
8]You don't understand the implications of the confession.....Or you are simply refusing to accept them.
9]If you find their answers "telling"...than you clearly don't understand Calvinism...as I could have told you that much from the get-go
10]since you aren't following
12]Yes, I know the implications Icon...YOU DON'T
you are not trying to help...you are not being coherent.
Here is what I actually said...pay attention...I will explain how to understand a sentence.....
I posted this;
[individual Election unto salvation is a biblical truth]
You said I posted this-
I did not say..."One could be elected" unto salvation...you inserted those wordsare you going to DHK's school of how to post on a message board...put words into someones post when you cannot prevail:laugh:
then I said;
......[ do you believe the gospel is another question altogether]
you said it this way....
and that one could fail to "believe the gospel"...
this is incoherent on your part.
I just did and it shows frustration and confusion of mind from your keyboard.
only in your mind friend....you have avoided the issue...
So...what God decrees is "certain"...I'll buy that.
sure it matters....God knows all the elect by name...from the human side..you do not.
I suspect you have other problems to deal with.
Icon, what I was referring to was two semantically equivalent statements:
If you say:
"Individual Election to salvation"
and I quote it as:
"Being elect to salvation".....
It's semantically equivalent.
You are getting in a tizzy about my quoting you in the active voice something you quoted in the passive voice.
That's not how adults converse Icon.
What I said was semantically equivalent, and I quoted you accurately. It's there for anyone to see. I detect that all you care about is "winning" some kind of argument with someone who is not a Calvinist...If I were contending that the sky is blue, you would debate it, because I'm not a Calvinist. If I argue that grass is (only when heathy) generally green, you would argue that "Kentucky 'Blue-grass' appears more bluish and not green." Have it your way....You'd argue with me if I debated that 2+2=4.....So here you go:
You win Icon. I'm wrong, you're right, and I shouldn't have said what I said.
We are saved due to us already bein g the Elect from/of God, not that once we got saved, then we become the Elect!
What do Calvinist think of God ordaining millions to be non-cals????
Don't know if it is not a case where the bethren have hardened themselves off to it first though!
Brethren resisting God!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brethren defeating the will of God!!!!!!!
Brethren changing the predestination/ordination of God!!!!! No wait, that doesn't make any sense...............