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Discussion in 'Politics' started by El_Guero, Oct 31, 2006.
Responsibility for Iraq.
Who is more responsible - the terrorists or the US Army?
It happened on the Bush watch, I blame him.
You be consistent . . .
You really need to put Bush into the equasion to be fair
In my humble opinion you missed putting George W. Bush into the equasion even history is debating that now and will debate it in the future.
you must be fair in conducting a poll ...perhaps you can change it.
You might as well ask who is responsible for unrest and crime in the United States.
Criminals who break the law
Police and law enforcement for enforcing the law
Congress for making laws
President Bush for not vetoing all laws
Church leaders for not preaching the law
All of the ridiculous argumentation . . . supports ridiculous politics by using ridiculous logic.
One of the most ridiculous elements of all of this is the perpetual doublespeak of: "We didn't vote for this war." Years after, we have had an incredible mindwipe. This whole, "I do not remember that," is so Orwellian.
Are you certain that this is not 1985?
The initial phase of support for the invasion was over 70% . . .
I was one of those that really did not want us to go. But, now that we are there, the others need to step up to the plate and support our troops.
We need 100% support of our troops. All of this blame game, is ridiculous. We the American people voted to go to war. We need to finish it. Yes, it was irresponsible to think that Iraq with thousands of mafia released to run an insurgency would be easy to marshal, but we are there now. It is time to lock up all of the guilty - and throw away the keys. They need to practice a little of their own law on their people. Death penalty for murder should be posted for all of the leaders of the insurgency. Cut off hands for stealing. It would not take long if they wanted to get rid of the problems over there. IMHO.
In the USA - the problem is liberals that have removed the moral backbone of this country. But, I agree with the great evangelists - it is better to change their hearts and bring them to Jesus than it is to legislate morality.
Okay, using that logic:
NO, we did NOT vote to go to war.
This is a bizarre claim unsupported by anything. The "moral backbone" was removed by all sides, and whether or not they are "liberal" has nothing to do with it. Are you so polarized that you blame the "liberals" for everything that is wrong with the world? I hope not, but comments like this one compel me to believe otherwise...
Yes, WE did. The vote authorizing force was 69% in the congress . . . that is the level required for a constitutional amendment. The 30% included those not showing up for work - but that is a different problem.
There was no 'outrage'. Everyone, including leading liberals, were for the war.
Unless, we leave this country, we need to take responsibility for the actions of our leadership.
Or, is this logic how we ignore our responsibility for abortion in this country?
Even if we are not held accountable in this age, we will be accountable to God in the coming age.
And while I cannot stand what the 'right' is doing to our country's working people, I would rather vote myself another layoff . . . and poverty than to vote for abortion and the other social ills that we have today.
And while I do not like the doublespeak in our political arena, I do not think that our politicians are the 'most' responsible.
Iraqis and other muslims need to start taking responsibility for their actions and their inactions.
Our country has paid a heavy price over the years in the blood of our heroes. It is time the rest of the world shed a little blood for the freedom that they claim they want.
Isn't this the easiest poll ever? The responsibility lies at the feet of terrorists and insurgents. There is not one politicians, either right or left, blowing up American soldiers and Iraqi civilians.
Blaming it on politicians shows just how desperate some are to make political attacks.
Bush certainly could have and should be doing things differently. The left wing could and should be doing things differently. But the responsibility lies with the ones doing the deeds.
I often wonder what has happened to personal responsibility.
After Election Day in the US, the killing of innocent Iraqi civilians
by terrorists will go way down. The Iraqi terrorists are trying
to THROW the US Election to the Democratic side. Vote
for Republican Senators & Representatives.
Amen, Brother Pastor Larry -- Preach it! :thumbs:
Ya think? Honesty and competence would be a good start.
Add a lot of individual responsibility around the world.
And it is a great post.