I had a very rigorous debate with Havensdad on tithing recently. I argued that tithing was not restricted to the ceremonial law alone and that it predated the law and that Jesus affirmed it which means that we should obey it just like we should obey any of the moral laws of God (Don't steal, kill, commit adultery, idolatry, etc...) I have held to that position for a very long time. It is a hangover from my dispensational arminian days. I've never been shaken on it because I have always had arguments on it with dispensational guys who were practical antinomians. But Havensdad argued from a different perspective- and defeated me (or my ideas if you prefer). Tithing is not for today. It perished with all ceremonial law. I was wrong. Havensdad was right. This does not mean we are out from under the gun, per say. Giving is still expected "for where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." But the 10% rule is gone. I yield to my betters on this debate and I appreciate the heat and light of good friction that sharpened this piece of iron.