Revelation 22:19

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  1. Steven2006

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    Do you believe this warning is speaking just to the book of Revelation or to the entire Bible? I have heard people claim both. Thanks in advance for your input.
     
  2. npetreley

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    I think it's specifically in reference to Revelation, but it still applies to the whole Bible.
     
  3. Scarlett O.

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    Here's a commentary on verse 18 and 19 from Marsh (I like his commentaries). I think he nails it.

     
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    The penalties cited in the context are from this book, not any other. Rev 22:18 is VERY forboding. It warns that those adding to the book will actually go into the tribulation!!

    To me, that is as much as saying that those averring a post-trib rapture where none is seen in The Revelation will actually not be raptured pretrib and will suffer the seals, trumpets, and bowls (the souls seen arriving in heaven are souls of MARTYRS)!

    Why is that? Are postribbers not saved? Or is it a practical thing like Lot's wife "looking back?" I can't say for sure but from the parable of the 10 virgins (Mt 25), I would conclude that they "believed in vain" -- had no Holy Spirit "oil."

    The case for "taking away" from the book is more severe, to me. At least for those who add, 22:19 is suggestive that they may still end up in the book of life. But for those who take away from it, NO book of life (which means no salvation)!

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    To say that a true child of God would never tamper with these Scriptures is simply naive.
    It does not mean only the open infidelity which refuses it as God’s word. The professing Church has practically set aside this book, not through mere misunderstanding, which is not here referred to, but because its character and hopes took a worldly life rather than living for God.
    The denunciation extends to those who shall add to or take from the words of the book of Revelation or any other part of the Bible. To add to God’s word, or to take from it, must bring judgment.
    If the person who corrupts Revelation is an unbeliever, he or she will have no part in the blessings of the new creation. If he or she is a believer, the part lost must be some special privilege in the eternal state.
     
  6. Grasshopper

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    Rev 22:19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy

    Pretty clear it speaks of Revelation. There was no "book" (canon of scripture)when Revelation was written.
     
  7. LeBuick

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    Moses gave a similar warning;

    Dt 4:2 (KJV) Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

    I have believed over the years these warnings mainly had to do with the scribes and their duty to make copies of the original text. Most people never saw the originals so these copies were all they had to go by. A scribe could theoritically put what they wanted and who would know the difference.

    I have often wodered how/if these warnings pertain to those who have translated the many versions of the bible. Reading one version vs another may give you a differnet meaning.
     
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    I would agree.
     
  9. EdSutton

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    Me, too!!

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    This is my own conclusion too.
     
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    Solidarity is a beautiful thing.
    As a personal point IMHO this is a warning to the future attempts to add to by Islam's Koran and the LDS's book of Mormon.
     
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    What about the writings of Mary Baker Eddy, L. Ron Hubbard and so on?
     
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    By all means yes.
     
  14. EdSutton

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    I noticed your 'tag line' says this.
    Unfortunately, that is a false statement, and I would personally urge you to redo it.

    As I said before, in another post, the center verses of the 31,102 found in the KJV are found in Psalm. 103:1-2.
    (There can be no middle verse, with an even number of verses.)
    And, as I said before elsewhere, the center verses do have a three-fold mention of blessing the Lord, in them.


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  15. Palatka51

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    A PM to Ed

    Ed,
    Why do you persist in bringing me to task regarding my signature? Does it bother you? If I am wrong leave me in my idiocy. However I'll refer you to this sight that investigates urban legends. Among others this is where I've based my facts. I do not know where you have gotten your figures for the verse count. Please explain. http://www.snopes.com/religion/center.asp
    They are an independent none religious site and thus have no agenda for their research.
     
  16. LeBuick

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    I'm not speaking for Ed but you get information from a "independent none religious site" then get offended when someone corrects you? If you see your brother scriptorially wrong, are we not obligated to offer correction or should we allow an untruth to continue to propogate?
     

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