Revelation 7: 9-17

Revelation 7:14 (NLT = new Living Translation):

And I said to him, "Sir, you are the one who knows.
"Then he said to me,
"These are the ones coming out of the great tribulation.
They washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb
and made them white.


Revelation 7:14 (HCSB = The Holman Christian Standard Bible)

I said to him, "Sir, you know." Then he told me:
These are the ones coming out of the great tribulation.
They washed their robes and made them white
in the blood of the Lamb.

As the 144,000 earlier, these unnumbered multitude are
those raptured/resurrected at the pretribulation
rapture/resurrection. The 144,000 Jewish/Israeli's
are appointed for special service to Jesus
during the Tribulation Period (see also Rev 14:1-5.

These unnumbered multitude before the Throne of God
are the saved of the Church Age: the mostly gentiles
and a few 100s of thousands of Messanic Jews
(those Jews who accept Jesus as their Messiah)
who were the elect saints of God: the redeemed,
born-again, saved Christians.

These are they which have come out of the Great
Tribulation period wrath Judgments by
being taken out of the regular universe into
the eternal Heaven wherein lies God's throne
(and we see them there, before God's throne).

Later in Revelation, the number 200 Million is named.
For there to be unnumbered Millions before the throne,
there must be LOT more than 200 Millions.

Number of persons born 33AD to 1990AD - 34,903 Million
Number of Christians 33AD to 1990 - 8,286 Million (about 25%)

Number of persons living 2004AD - 6,000 Million
Number of Christians living 2004AD - 2,000 Million (about 33%)

Countilng a goodly number of the 8,286 nominal
Christians as dead real Christians and a goodly
number of the 2,000 MIllion living Christians
as being real Christians (the one on God's list) --
I think there will be well over 2,000 Million Resurrected
and well over 400 Million Raptured --
the unnumbered souls worshiping God before the throne.
I'm planning on being there. Hope to see you there,
round the throne, right after the Pre-tribulation
rapture/resurrection.

"(I use the NIV, and the KJV 1611 translations"

I recognize the NIV (sorry, i don't have an electronic copy).
"KJV 1611 translation" is NOT a specific term. Many different
Bibles are called that. So I don't know to which
book (or electronic equivalent) you refer.

Here is the reading of
Revelation 7:14 in the book I call
the KJV1611:

Reuelation VII:14 (KJV1611):

And I said vnto him, Sir, thou
knowest. And he said to me, These are
they which came out of great tribulation,
and have washed their robes, and
made them white in the blood of the
Lambe.

 

Verse 14, properly understood,
is the key. Nary a one shown under
the throne here in chapter 7 is saved
during tribulation period wrath judgements.

Here is what happens to the ones who are
in the tribulation period wrath judgements:

Revelation 9:20 (HCSB = The Holman Christian Standard Bible)

The rest of the people, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands to stop worshiping demons and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone, and wood, which are not able to see, hear, or walk.
9:21
And they did not repent of their murders, their sorceries, their sexual immorality, or their thefts.

How are these people saved in the Tribulation
Period Wrath Judgements if they don't repent?
They aren't saved.

Sorry, my Messanic Jewish friends say
that when the last Gentile who is going to
get saved, gets saved, then the Lord
will have a pretribulation rapture/resurrection.
Then our blessed Lord and Savior:
their Messiah Jesus, will get around to
saving a maximum number of Jews.

I know perchance that God will have mercy
on some gentiles during the Tribulation
Period wrath Judgements. But i'm betting
on the SURE THING: now is the time appointed
for salvation. I'm not going to risk my
eternal soul on a "might get saved"
left behind, made a fool of a
96-pound weaking antichrist scenario.

 

That is us, the ones before the very Throne
of God. It is you and i and the others
that have trusted the Lord Jesus for
eternal salvation. For the the pretribulation
rapture/resurrection, our faith will
become sight! Amen!

I need to run wash my robe in
the Blood of the Lambe.
I need to repent of unmitigated
"toast posties"

/note for the humor impared.
A pun based on the trade mark
POST TOASTIES, a whole grain breakfast
cereal. Posties are those who believe
the only rapture/resurrection will be
at the end of the tribualtion period
wrath judgements. I have toasted those
posties with righteous Biblical arguments.

I have a reoccuring night dream.
I'm getting ready to hit "Enter".
I've written the most diplomatic,
Biblically correct, easy to understand,
definative post. I've blown the socks
off of those who choose to argue with me.
I am a tad put out thou I'd like to
read what i wrote before i post.
But it is a dream, and the dreaming part
of my mind is incapable of reading.
I'd like to know what i said cause i can
use it when i wake up /