Revisions Of Revisions

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  1. Rippon

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    I am curious as to what some of you think regarding updates to some more current versions . Now the NIV was a brand-new version when it first came out . It was not a revision of a revision . But many other versions are indeed revisions of revisions .

    What current versions show the highest percentage of change from the one before ?

    I will list some for you to consider .

    RSV/ESV
    RSV/NRSV
    NIV/TNIV
    NASB/NASBU
    JB/NJB
    NEB/REB
    NLT1/NLTse
    KJV/NKJ

    Okay , which one(s) has the most extensive changes from its predecessor ? Let's focus on the New Testament especially .
     
  2. Snitzelhoff

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    Probably depends on what you mean by "changes". If anything goes, almost certainly KJV to NKJV. Grammar updates, spelling updates, word usage updates, and sentence structure updates would be more prevalent in that particular revision than in any of the other ones, largely because of the nearly four centuries between the 1611 and the NKJV. That's just speculation, so if someone has real numbers that contradict it, I'll gladly stand corrected, but it makes sense to me.

    Michael
     
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    I would have to agree with you Michael . Wow , that was easy ! What about # 2 for the most changes between some former version and its more current counterpart ?
     
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    The NKJV is a whole new translation & not simply a revision of the KJV.
     
  5. Salamander

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    Then why did you include it in your list?:BangHead:
     
  6. EdSutton

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    You are ascribing what robycop3 said to Rippon, who said nothing of the sort.

    Ed
     
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    If you include removal of the apocrypha...it's KJV / NKJV hands down!
     
  8. Salamander

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    I figured roby was the most venerable in these discussions. I know what I did.:laugh: The question is do you know what I am doing?
     
  9. EdSutton

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    Yeah, in this instance, putting words in someone's mouth that they did not say, at least on this thread. And I consider that a falsehood.

    Ed
     
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    KJ 1611 to KJ 1769
     
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    You have left out what is, perhaps, the most important revision of a revision, the revision of the Bishops' Bible (which was a revision of the Great Bible which was a revision of Tyndale's Bible) into the KJV of 1611.:saint:
     
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    So the later KJV was a revision of a revision of a revision of a revision. Did I get that straight?
    :godisgood:
     
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    Tyndale, to Great, to Bishops', to KJV. :) Enough to make a KJVO weep! :D
     
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    But truthful!!!
     
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    Revised

    That's right and the fun fact here is that once it got to the KJV it was still not done being revised. It has undergone AT LEAST 3 more revisions since then. The last one was in 1769. The NKJV is a revision but along the lines of the AV1611 type of revision in which they pulled out the manuscripts and double checked everything. BTW, they used the same family of MS as the AV1611 and did the same thing the 1611 guys did, they added notes in the margin about what other MS say about a particular verse or passage.
     
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    And more revisions are coming:godisgood:

    I hope they revise the ESV. I find so much problems still.
     
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    You know, I find it interesting, but when I was a kid you could find KJV Bibles with the translators' notes all over the place. Those notes had possible alternate translations, etc.

    I guess they've gone the way of interleaved Bibles.

    You can find 'em, but it's hard.
     

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