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    Does anyone have a list of the revisions between the 1850 KJV and the 1769 edition.
     
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    I didn't know there was a 1850 KJV.
    Do you mean the 1873 KJV?
    I do have a list of some of those changes somewhere.
     
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    The 1850 revision that I know of was by two Baptists, Spencer Cone and William Wyckoff, "The Commonly received Version of the New Testament ..." whose major change was to use "immerse" instead of "baptize."
     
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    Revizions

    The difference we found was in Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8 where in the 1850 Joshua was used and in the 1769 Jesus was used.

    I know these names mean the same. I was curious why one KJV said one thing and another KJV said something else.

    It seems to be a revision nothing more, not affecting any doctrine.

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    rrevisons

    If you find that list of revisions, please pass it on.

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    I do not know of any official KJV edition printed in 1850 that introduced changes in the text. I have a copy of an edition of the KJV printed at Oxford in 1850, and I don't know of any revisions introduced in it.

    Peter Ruckman is one author that mentioned a 1850 KJV. It may be possible that he was rounding off the date and referring to the standard American Bible Society KJV edition first printed around 1852.
    Ruckman wrote: "At this writing, it is the Standard Edition, Octavo Reference Bible of 1852, as established by Gardiner Spring, Thomas Cook, Samuel H. Turner, Edward Robinson, Thomas Vermilye, John McClintock, and Richard S. Storrs, Jr." (Differences in KJV Editions, p. 19). That American Bible Society edition of the KJV was printed for 6 to 8 years. Some of the alterations introduced in it were later reintroduced into present KJV editions printed by the American Bible Society.

    Present KJV editions are not every word the same in text as the 1769 Oxford edition of the KJV. Changes were introduced into present Oxford KJV editions as late as the 1880's and into most present Cambridge KJV editions as late as the early 1900's. Besides the reprints of the 1611 edition, the reprint of the 1873 Cambridge KJV edition may be the oldest KJV edition in print today.
     
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    The edition of the KJV published by the American Bible Society in 1846 has some variations. This 1846 KJV edition has "subtile" for "subtil" (Gen. 3:1), "Spirit" for "spirit" (Gen. 6:3), "assuaged" for "asswaged" (Gen. 8:1), "a husbandman" for "an husbandman" (Gen. 9:20), "mortar" for "morter" (Gen. 11:3), “lifted“ for “lift“ (Gen. 14:22), “a horror“ for “an horror“ (Gen. 15:12), “In that“ for “In the“ (Gen. 15:18), “fetched“ for “fetcht“ (Gen. 18:7), “have borne“ for “have born“ (Gen. 30:20), "grizzled" for "grisled" (Gen. 31:10), "aught" for "ought" (Gen. 39:6), "raven" for "ravin" (Gen. 49:27), "loathe" for "lothe" (Exod. 7:18), "rye" for "rie" (Exod. 9:32), “sanctuary, O LORD“ for “Sanctuary, O Lord“ (Exod. 15:17), "clothes" for "cloths" (Exod. 31:10, 35:19, 39:1, 39:41), "strewed" for "strawed" (Exod. 32:20), "cleft" for "clift" (Exod. 33:22), “a hole“ for “an hole“ (Exod. 39:23), "cuckoo" for "cuckow" (Lev. 11:16), "plaster" for "plaister" (Lev. 14:42), "plastered" for "plaistered" (Lev. 14:43), "brazen" for "brasen" (Num. 16:39), “awl“ for “aul“ (Deut. 15:17), "or Sheba" for "and Sheba" (Jos. 19:2), "prancings" for "pransings" (Jud. 5:22), “mother-in-law“ for “mother in law“ (Ruth 1:14), "steadfastly" for "stedfastly" (Ruth 1:18), “priest‘s custom“ for “priests‘ custom“ (1 Sam. 2:13), “hasted“ for “hastened“ (1 Sam. 17:48), “And he made“ for “And made“ (2 Sam. 2:9), "word" for "words" (1 Kings 3:12), “basins“ for “basons“ (1 Kings 7:50), “the LORD“ for “the Lord“ (1 Kings 8:56), "three pounds" for "three pound" (1 Kings 10:17), “the LORD“ for “the Lord“ (2 Kings 7:6), “all the tribes“ for “all tribes“ (2 Kings 21:7), "five thousand pounds" for "five thousand pound" (Ezra 2:69), “in the dust“ for “in dust“ (Job 39:14), "Most High" for "most High" (Ps. 21:7), "Holy Spirit" for "holy spirit" (Ps. 51:11), "steadfast" for "stedfast" (Ps. 78:8), "paid" for "payed" (Prov. 7:14), "inquiry" for "enquiry" (Prov. 20:25), “yea further“ for “yea farther“ (Eccl. 8:17), "wash ye" for "wash you" (Isa. 1:16), "Spirit of the LORD" for "spirit of the LORD" (Isa. 11:2), “a hungry“ for “an hungry“ (Isa. 29:8), “a hill“ for “an hill“ (Isa. 30:17), "Mighty One" for "mighty One" (Isa. 49:26), "inflaming" for "Enflaming" (Isa. 57:5), "Holy Spirit" for "holy Spirit" (Isa. 63:10), "astonished" for "astonied" (Jer. 14:9), "neither … nor daughters" for "neither … or daughters" (Jer. 16:2), "afterwards" for "afterward" (Jer. 34:11), “The word which“ for “The word that“ (Jer. 40:1), "portray" for "pourtray" (Ezek. 4:1), "loathed" for "lothed" (Ezek. 16:45), "since" for "sith" (Ezek. 35:6), "outer" for "utter" (Ezek. 40:31, 37), "music" for "musick" (Dan. 6:18), “a harlot“ for “an harlot“ (Joel 3:3), "prized" for "prised" (Zech. 11:13), "public" for "publick" (Matt. 1:19), "Spirit" for "spirit" (Matt. 4:1), "cloak" for "cloke" (Matt. 5:40), "lunatic" for "lunatick" (Matt. 17:15), "sponge" for "spunge" (Matt. 27:48), “further“ for “farther“ (Mark 1:19), "lifted" for "lift" (Luke 16:23), "sycamore" for "sycomore" (Luke 19:4), "others" for "other" (Luke 23:32), "sergeants" for "serjeants" (Acts 16:35), "publicly" for "publickly" (Acts 18:28), "fleshly" for "fleshy" (2 Cor. 3:3), "those who" for "these who" (Gal. 2:6), "sometime" for "sometimes" (Eph. 5:8), "always" for "alway" (Phil. 4:4), "steadfastness" for "stedfastness" (Col. 2:5), "Holy Spirit" for "holy Spirit" (1 Thess. 4:8), "broidered" for "broided" (1 Timothy 2:9), "thoroughly" for "throughly" (2 Tim. 3:16), "heretic" for "heretick" (Tit. 3:10), and "chrysolite" for "chrysolyte" (Rev. 21:20).

    In 1851 the American Bible Society produced a revised edition of the KJV that was published in 1852 as their standard edition. Darlow and Moule noted: "It is not generally known that in the middle of the nineteenth century the American Bible Society carried out a careful revision of the current text of the 'Authorised' Version" (Historical Catalogue, p. 362). After some of the Society's supporters objected to it, the publishing of this standard edition was stopped in 1858. Ruckman wrote: "At this writing, it is the Standard Edition, Octavo Reference Bible of 1852, as established by Gardiner Spring, Thomas Cook, Samuel H. Turner, Edward Robinson, Thomas Vermilye, John McClintock, and Richard S. Storrs, Jr." (Differences in KJV Editions, p. 19). E. W. Whitten asserted that in 1852 “the Octavo Reference Bible was published” and that “it is the standard Authorized Version King James Bible in use today” (Truth, pp. 111-112).

    Darlow and Moule observed that in the 1851-52 edition "the 's' has been dropped in the case of Hebrew plurals; thus cherubim for cherubims (Historical Catalogue, p. 362). This ABS Standard edition as found in an 1853 edition had “cherubim” (Gen. 3:24), “Rephaim” (Gen. 14:5), “Zuzim“ (Gen. 14:5), “Emim” (Gen. 14:5), “Anakim” (Deut. 1:28), “Horim“ (Deut. 2:12), “Zamzummim“ (Deut. 2:20), “Avim“ (Deut. 2:23), “Caphtorim“ (Deut. 2:23), “Nethinim” (1 Chron. 9:2), “Lubim“ (2 Chron. 12:3), “Sukkiim“ (2 Chron. 12:3), “Mehunim“ (2 Chron. 26:7), “seraphim” (Isa. 6:2), “cherubim’s” (Ezek. 10:5), “Cherethim“ (Ezek. 25:16), "Gammadim" (Ezek. 27:11), and “Chemarim“ (Zeph. 1:4). There were also some variations or changes in the 1851-52 edition that are not found in the present ABS edition. For example, the 1851-52 edition had "in the judgment" instead "in judgment" at Matthew 12:41. The ABS’s Committee on Versions maintained that “this is required by the Greek; and the same Greek phrase, in verse 42, is so rendered by the translators” (Statements, p. 6). It had “Aijalon“ instead of “Ajalon“ (Josh. 10:12, 19:42), “Ashkelon“ instead of “Askelon“ (Jud. 1:18), “he went” instead of “she went” (Ruth 3:15), “sackcloth” instead of “sackclothes” (Neh. 9:1), “Kishon“ instead of “Kison“ (Ps. 83:9), “she please” instead of “he please” (Song of Solomon 2:7, 3:5, 8:4), “John the Baptist“ instead of “John Baptist“ (Luke 7:20), “aware” instead of “ware” (Acts 14:6), and “horses’ bridles” instead of “horse bridles” (Rev. 14:20). Darlow and Moule pointed out the brackets and italics in the latter clause of 1 John 2:23 were dropped in this 1852 edition (p. 362). Concerning 1 John 2:23, the Committee noted “as there is no question of its genuineness, both the brackets and the italics have been dropped” (Statements, p. 9).
    This 1851-52 standard edition influenced the present edition of the KJV published by this Bible society. Scrivener noted that "some small fruits" of this 1851-52 edition "remain in the editions of the Bible published by the American Bible Society since 1860" (Authorized Version, p. 37). The present editions of the KJV published by the American Bible Society may be based on their standard edition of 1860, but they do now include some but not all of the revisions that were in the 1851-52 standard edition. The 1853 ABS edition has several variations found in the present edition such as "plucked" for "pluckt" (Gen. 8:11), “dwelt“ for “dwelled“ (Gen. 13:7), and "rearward" for "rereward" (Josh. 6:9).
     
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    A present KJV edition published by the American Bible Society has more variations from many present KJV editions than did the 1846 edition. This ABS edition has "Joshua" at Acts 7:45 instead of "Jesus." Some additional differences besides the ones in the 1846 edition include the following: "cherubim" for "cherubims" (Gen. 3:24), "plucked" for "pluckt" (Gen. 8:11), "savor" for "savour" (Gen. 8:21), “dwelt“ for “dwelled“ (Gen. 13:7), "a handmaid" for "an handmaid" (Gen. 16:1), "favor" for "favour" (Gen. 18:3), "entreat" for "intreat" (Gen. 23:8), "lain" for "lien" (Gen. 26:10), "savory" for "savoury" (Gen. 27:4), “chestnut“ for “chesnut“ (Gen. 30:37), “streaks“ for “strakes“ (Gen. 30:37), "labor" for "labour" (Gen. 31:42), "honorable" for "honourable" (Gen. 34:19), "colors" for "colours" (Gen. 37:3), "traffic" for "traffick" (Gen. 42:34), "rigor" for "rigour" (Exod. 1:13), "neighbor" for "neighbour" (Exod. 3:22), “Tomorrow“ [one word] for “To morrow” (Exod. 8:10), “brazen“ for “brasen“ (Exod. 27:4), “basins“ for “basons“ (Exod. 24:6), "showbread" for "shewbread" (Exod. 25:30), “always“ for “alway“ (Exod. 25:30), "veil" for "vail" (Exod. 26:31), "a hanging" for "an hanging" (Exod. 26:36), "wreathed" for "wreathen" (Exod. 28:14), "a hole" for "an hole" (Exod. 28:32), “men children“ for “menchildren“ (Exod. 34:12), "baked" for "baken" (Lev. 2:4), "color" for "colour" (Lev. 13:55), "spew" for "spue" (Lev. 18:28), “jubilee“ for “jubile“ (Lev. 25:9), "a homer" for "an homer" (Lev. 27:16), "evil-favoredness" for "evilfavouredness" (Deut. 17:1), “recompense“ for “recompence“ (Deut. 32:35), "valor" for "valour" (Josh. 1:14), "rearward" for "rereward" (Josh. 6:9), "neighbors" for "neighbours" (Jos. 9:16), "parlor" for "parlour" (Jud. 3:20), "a hammer" for "an hammer" (Jud. 4:21), "armor-bearer" for "armourbearer" (Jud. 9:54), “wondrously“ for “wonderously“ (Jud. 13:19), "withes" for "withs" (Jud. 16:7), "favorable" for "favourable" (Jud. 21:22), "armor" for "armour" (1 Sam. 14:1), "a honeycomb" for "an honeycomb" (1 Sam. 14:27), “strongholds“ [one word] for “strong holds” (1 Sam. 23:19) "a hill" for "an hill" (1 Sam. 26:13), "succor" for "succour" (2 Sam. 8:5), "unsavory" for "unsavoury" (2 Sam. 22:27), “caterpillar“ for “caterpiller“ (1 Kings 8:37), "a horse" for "an horse" (1 Kings 10:29), "rumor" for "rumour" (2 Kings 19:7), "magnificent" for "magnifical" (1 Chron. 22:5), “victuals“ for “victual” (2 Chron. 11:11, 23), "dishonor" for "dishonour" (Ezra 4:14), "armory" for "armoury" (Neh. 3:19), "a hireling" for "an hireling" (Job 7:1), "a hypocrite" for "an hypocrite" (Job 13:16), "hunger-bitten" for "hungerbitten" (Job 18:12), "entreated" for "intreated" (Job 19:17), "a hook" for "an hook" (Job 41:1), "sneezings" for "neesings" (Job 41:18), "endeavors" for "endeavours" (Ps. 28:4), “helped“ for “holpen“ (Ps. 83:8, 86:17), "vapor" for "vapours" or "vapour" (Ps. 148:8), "seraphim" for "seraphims" (Isa. 6:2), "soldering" for "sodering" (Isa. 41:7), “laden“ for “loaden“ (Isa. 46:1), “clefts“ for “clifts“ (Isa. 57:5), “winevat“ for “winefat“ (Isa. 63:2), “chapped“ for “chapt“ (Jer. 14:4), "astonished" for "astonied" (Jer. 14:9), “cherubim‘s“ for “cherubims‘” (Ezek. 10:5), "marshes" for "marishes" (Ezek. 47:11), "hose" for "hosen" (Dan. 3:21), “while“ for “whiles“ (Dan. 9:21), "vats" for "fats" (Joel 2:24), "dishonoreth" for "dishonoureth" (Mic. 7:6), "well-favored" for "wellfavoured" (Nah. 3:4), “idle shepherd“ for “idol shepherd“ (Zech. 11:17), "ahungered" for "an hungred" (Matt. 4:2), "show" for "shew" (Matt. 8:4), "laborers" for "labourers" (Matt. 9:37), “wayside“ [one word] for “way side“ (Matt. 13:4), "honor" for "honour" (Matt. 13:57), “lowering“ for “lowring“ (Matt. 16:3), "a hymn" for "an hymn" (Matt. 26:30), "further" for "farther" (Matt. 26:39), “plow“ for “plough“ (Luke 9:62), "They say" for "They said" (John 11:34), “others“ for “other“ (John 19:18), "a hundred" for "an hundred" (Acts 1:15). "bishopric" for "bishoprick" (Acts 1:20), “havoc“ for “havock“ (Acts 8:3), "endeavored" for "endeavoured" (Acts 16:10), “others“ for “other“ (Acts 17:9), "theater" for "theatre" (Acts 19:29), “struck“ for “strake“ (Acts 27:17), "hoisted" for "hoised" (Acts 27:40), "honors" for "honours" (Acts 28:10), “unmovable“ for “unmoveable“ (1 Cor. 15:58), "Anathema, Maranatha" for "Anathema Maranatha" (1 Cor. 16:22), "braided" for "broided" (1 Tim. 2:9), "behavior" for "behaviour" (Tit. 2:3), "today" [one word] for "to day" [two words]" (Heb. 13:8), “Spirit” for “spirit” (1 Pet. 4:14), and "scarlet-colored" for "scarlet coloured" (Rev. 17:3).

    In addition to all the above changes, this present ABS edition has several changes in the spelling of proper names and places. It has “Girgashite“ (Gen. 10:16) instead of “Girgasite,” "Rephaim" (Gen. 14:5) instead of "Rephaims," "Emim" (Gen. 14:5) instead of "Emims," "Anakim" (Deut. 1:28) instead of "Anakims," "Nethinim" (1 Chron. 9:2) instead of "Nethinims," “Mehunim“ (2 Chron. 26:7) instead of “Mehunims,” "Carchemish" (2 Chron. 35:20) instead of "Charchemish," "Zion" instead of "Sion" (Ps. 65:1), “Jeshurun“ instead of “Jesurun“ (Isa. 44:2), "Rachel" instead of "Rahel" (Jer. 31:15), "Gammadim" instead of "Gammadims" (Ezek. 27:11), "Syriac" instead of "Syriack" (Dan. 2:4), "Zarephath" (Luke 4:26) instead of "Sarepta," "Gomorrah" (Matt. 10:15) instead of "Gomorrha," "Sodom" (Rom. 9:29) instead of "Sodoma," "Haran" (Acts 7:4) instead of "Charran," "Canaan" (Acts 7:11) instead of "Chanaan," “Midian“ (Acts 7:29) instead of “Madian,” "Sinai" (Acts 7:38) instead of 'Sina," "Sharon" (Acts 9:35) instead of "Saron," "Phoenicia" (Acts 11:19) instead of "Phenice," "Kish" (Acts 13:21) instead of "Cis," "Stoics" (Acts 17:13) instead of "Stoicks," "Hagar" (Gal. 4:24) instead of "Agar," "Miletus" (2 Tim. 4:20) instead of 'Miletum," and "Naphtali" (Rev. 7:6) instead of "Nephalim." This ABS edition also has "Elijah" and "Jeremiah" in Matthew 16:14 for "Elias" and "Jeremias," "Asher" for "Aser" in Luke 2:36, "Elisha" for "Eliseus" in Luke 4:27, "Zechariah" for "Zacharias" in Matthew 23:35, "Noah" in Matthew 24:37 for "Noe," "Messiah" in John 1:41 for "Messias," "Hosea" in Romans 9:25 for "Osee," "Mark" in Colossians 4:10 for "Marcus," "Gideon" in Hebrews 11:32 for "Gedeon," "Jephthah" in Hebrews 11:32 for "Jephthae," "Luke" in Philemon 24 for "Lucas," "Timothy" in 2 Corinthians 1:19 for "Timotheus," "Beor" in 2 Peter 2:15 for "Bosor," "Korah" in Jude 11 for "Core," and "Balak" in Revelation 2:14 for "Balac." Furthermore, there are several differences in the spelling of the names at Matthew 1 and Luke 3 such as "Judah" (Matt. 1:3) for "Judas," "Rehoboam" (Matt. 1:7) for "Roboam," "Abijah" (Matt. 1:7) for "Abia," "Uzziah" (Matt. 1:9) for "Ozias," "Hezekiah" (Matt. 1:10) for "Ezekias," "Zadok" (Matt. 1:14) for "Sadoc," "Immanuel" (Matt. 1:23) for "Emmanuel," "Reu" (Luke 3:35) for "Ragau," "Hezron" (Luke 3:33) for "Esrom," "Terah" (Luke 3:34) for "Thara," "Methuselah" (Luke 3:37) for "Mathusala,"and "Peleg" (Luke 3:35) for "Phalec."
     

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