RNC wimps out again

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  1. LadyEagle

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    What is wrong with the following?

    “Resolved, that we the members of the Republican National Committee recognize that the Democratic Party is dedicated to restructuring American society along socialist ideals,”

    It would have been asinine to ask the democrats to call themselves democrat socialists. obama has already admitted that to Joe the plumber.
     
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    Because it's a soft peddle, a PC version of the naked truth. The Dems just should be up front about it and change their name to reflect who they are.
     
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    Really, I don't think the Republican Party, should have made a vote to call the Democrats "Socialists". I would have just dubbed them the Democrat-Solialist Party in all of my speeches. Then it would catch on, before long every conservative minded person would be addressing them as Democratic-Socialists. I seriously doubt the Democrats would rename themselves. There isn't a major divide amongst the Democrats.

    The big divide is in the Republican Party. Over the years, the Republican Party has become more liberal. Michael Steele was trying to determine if Republicans should be go back to their conservative roots or be moderate. The answer is pretty obvious. You don't win elections by trying to be more like your opponents. People look at where you are different, not where you are identical.

    Either the Republican Party needs become the conservative party it used to be or the conservatives need to leave the Republican Party, so it can continue being the moderate party it wants to be. Conservatives then can form a new party. This way conservatives can band together & have a voice. It would be successful too, if the numbers in the Republican Party were drastically reduced.
     
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    First off, if the Republicans started engaging in such childish name-calling, then it would further alienate independents, who already are leaning toward Democrats. Rush Limbaugh could get away with it, but an elected official would not be so lucky.

    The Republican party has had a liberal stream in it for a long time. In fact, they were the more "liberal" party when they came in to being in the mid-1800s. Regardless, in the most recent system when the GOP started taking over the Southern states, the South became a hotbed of GOP conservatism. Conservatives also dominated the west, but in a Barry Goldwater, more libertarian mold. The northeast Republicans have pretty much always been socially moderate to liberal and fiscally moderate-conservative.

    It's not an issue of the GOP getting away from its roots; it's an issue of the northeastern mold of Republican making a bit of a resurgence.

    The problem with the GOP in my opinion is a focus on social issues that does not result in any action along with a betrayal of fiscally conservative positions. For example, with same-sex marriage, the country is gradually becoming more accepting of the idea. If the GOP pulls a hard line on this, they are going to take a hit. Abortion is a little different. As long as the GOP doesn't come off as radical, then it can maintain a pro-life position, especially since the country isn't as supportive of abortion as the left would like many of us to believe.

    George W. Bush, for one, wasn't a "tax and spend liberal." He was just a "Don't tax but still spend" kind of "conservative."
     
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    The name calling does seem childish. I think it should have been one person to use the name as opposed to the entire party.

    I never really saw George W. Bush as a conservative. I saw saw him as more of a moderate with some conservative tendencies.

    If the GOP was like they were in 1980, they would be unstopable. Conservatism always wins.
     
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    I've heard this said a lot, but what proof do you have? Historically, politics worldwide have generally drifted to the left, with sometimes reactionary temporary shifts back to the right.
     
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    This whole proposal is ridiculous, and is just another example of the fact that the GOP is the party of slander rather than the one of solutions to our problems. Is this the most important thing they could spend time on?

    Besides, each party has its own name. This is as ridiculous as the Democrats voting to name the Republicans "The Republican-Fascist-Reactionary Party".

    Politicians need to drop the politics and get on with solving the massive problems facing us. Petty, childish antics serve no one.
     
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    I would like to see them do that. I think if they did that, by calling Republicans "facists" & calling Democrats "socialists", at some point in time they would have to stop, look at each other, & say "we're actually the same". Truthfully, facism & socialism are both extreme leftist forms of government. That's when the government (or a single person) has control of everything.

    If the Democrats gathered & decided to call Republicans the Republican-Anarchist Party, then at least the Republican Party would have a reputation to live up to.
     
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    You only need to check out the landslide victory that occurred.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1980

    1984 was an even bigger landslide since Reagan won 49 out of 50 states.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1984

    Why change tactics when it works?
     
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    Correct. Most people who say Republicans are fascist, just repeat what they've heard and don't know the history of fascism or even what it means.

    Republicans need to get back to their conservative ideals on fiscal issues and moral issues and they would start winning elections with full support of their base instead of their base either not voting or having to vote for the lesser of two evils. I don't know if Palin was the right choice for VP or not, but at least some of us got excited about her pick even briefly. We weren't excited about Bob Dole, GW Bush, or John McCain. Republican leaders need to get a clue and stop trying to reach out to moderates. As moderates are embraced, then the original concept loses being pristine. This is true in any group structure that expands it's group to include others who don't embrace the same ideals as the original group.
     

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