Romney has large lead over Obama among independents

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  1. mandym

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    http://www.gallup.com/poll/153902/Romney-Obama-Tight-Race-Gallup-Daily-Tracking-Begins.aspx
     
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    Good. May the momentum continue.....
     
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    For me my voting for him depends on who he selects for VP.
     
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    This will be an interesting thread to bring back up on November 7th. Since I would vote for neither, and looking at both candidates as pretty much the same, my guess is that these numbers will be far from the final results. If my ideas about nominating Democrat type Republican nominees are true, then Obama is going to crush, shallack, thrash his opponent, whatever word one wants to use. Had a decent candidate been nominated by the Republicans, the election would have been a landslide the other way.

    The states to watch for a change from solid Republican to in play are the deep Southern states, where many Christian evangelicals will either stay home or not vote Republican, along with the large black voter population.
     
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    Gonna sit this one out?
     
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    The south will rise again, lol. I think you are wrong on this one. The desire to get rid of obama trumps everything and even if people have to hold their noses, they will vote Republican. People will vote out of fear - fear of obama unleashed.

    Assuming, of course, that obama doesn't come up with some national emergency to declare martial law and postpone the election...indefinitely.
     
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    No, it doesn't. You won't vote for him regardless.

    It's Obama all the way for you. He already has an idiot for a VP. That should keep you happy.
     
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    No I am not. I am scheduled to attend the Constititution Party National Convention this weekend in Nashville as a delegate from Kentucky, and intend on voting for Virgil Goode for the nomination.
     
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    I have only lived in two states, Mississippi and Kentucky. I can agree with you about Kentucky, as there is not a large black population. However, I disagree with you about Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, etc. I am not saying Obama will carry them. All I am saying is the states are in play.
     
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    If you won't vote for neither Obama nor Romney, why do you choose to help Obama win and not Romney.

    Seems like the only fair thing for you to do would be not vote at all.
     
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    :laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
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    What??????

    Makes as much sense as letting the VP candidate decide it for you.:BangHead:

    Neither is very ...illuminating.
     
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    Carpro, FAL's expressing his happiness.
     
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    :laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
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    Have you actually sat down and weighed the pros and cons of voting for Romney? We both agree that voting for Obama is out of the question. I guess what I cannot figure out is how do you think a vote for Romney solves the problem of a liberal, anti-Constitutional, unChristian President that has no sense of morality. Also, your statement that a vote for a candidate that believes in running the nation by the Constitution, and believes in at least a sense of morality like defending life and a tradtional marriage is a vote for Obama is not true. If it was a vote for Obama, I would be pulling the lever for Obama.

    You cannot have it both ways. If you detest Obama's morality and philosophy of running the nation, you cannot turn right around and vote for the same ideals and feel like you have accomplished something.

    How can you tell the last poster that "its Obama all the way for you" and turn right around and vote for his siamese twin?

    Maybe the solution should have been getting out and doing something to ensure that Republicans nominate a candidate who truly makes a difference, a candidate who believes in the Constitution, who believes in the sanctity of life, that believes in a Biblcial family, instead of doing nothing and accepting what is handed to you every four years in the form of a liberal, pro abortion, pro gay rights stooge.
     
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    >If you won't vote for neither Obama nor Romney, why do you choose to help Obama win and not Romney.

    Maybe because Romney is dangerous AND a Mormon. This is how Romney creates jobs:

    http://www.villagevoice.com/2012-04...asite?utm_source=Newsletters&utm_medium=email

    It was the early 1990s, and the 750 men and women at Georgetown Steel were pumping out wire rods at peak performance. They had an abiding trust in management's ability to run a smart company. That allegiance was rewarded with fat profit-sharing checks. In the basement-wage economy of Georgetown, South Carolina, Sanderson and his co-workers were blue-collar aristocracy.

    "We were doing very good," says Sanderson, president of Steelworkers Local 7898. "The plant was making money, and we had good profit-sharing checks, and everything was going well."

    What he didn't know was that it was about to end. Hundreds of miles to the north, in Boston, a future presidential candidate was sizing up Georgetown's books.

    At the time, Mitt Romney had been running Bain Capital since 1984, minting a reputation as a prince of private investment. A future prospectus by Deutsche Bank would reveal that by the time he left in 1999, Bain had averaged a shimmering 88 percent annual return on investment. Romney would use that success to launch his political career.

    His specialty was flipping companies—or what he often calls "creative destruction." It's the age-old theory that the new must constantly attack the old to bring efficiency to the economy, even if some companies are destroyed along the way. In other words, people like Romney are the wolves, culling the herd of the weak and infirm.

    His formula was simple: Bain would purchase a firm with little money down, then begin extracting huge management fees and paying Romney and his investors enormous dividends.

    The result was that previously profitable companies were now burdened with debt. But much like the Enron boys, Romney's battery of MBAs fancied themselves the smartest guys in the room. It didn't matter if a company manufactured bicycles or contact lenses; they were certain they could run it better than anyone else.

    Bain would slash costs, jettison workers, reposition product lines, and merge its new companies with other firms. With luck, they'd be able to dump the firm in a few years for millions more than they'd paid for it.

    But the beauty of Romney's thesis was that it really didn't matter if the company succeeded. Because he was yanking out cash early and often, he would profit even if his targets collapsed.
     
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    >Makes as much sense as letting the VP candidate decide it for you

    Didn't George2's VP run the country?
     
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    Hey, SN, if you see this post & aren't on the road, have a great time in Nashville. Close to where the CP convention is being held are good eats: Local Irish Restaurant in Donelson (Old Lebanon Road): http://www.mcnamarasirishpub.com/#!menus great food!!

    Best Ribs ever, fall off the bone: Outback take I-40 East, Exit 221A 1/2 mile on the right

    Red Lobster, Olive Garden, & More: I-40 East, Exit 226 Providence Way

    Close to you will be Opryland and Opry Mills (recently reopened after the flood) - They tell me it's better than ever but packed.....

    Never been to Caney Fork (by Opryland for catfish) http://www.caneyforkrestaurant.com/

    Have a great weekend! I voted for the CP candidate back in 2004 and went to the CP convention. Great bunch of folks.
     

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