Ron Paul: A Man Among Boys at ABC Debate

People need to put down the latest Paris Hilton conspiracy theory manuals and pick up the history book they should've read in HS or college. It's abysmal to think how ignorant some people are of history. Just plain abysmal

 

It is completely ignorant to not take into account blowback because of our interference in the affairs of other nations, such as overthrowing the elected government of Iran in 1953 and installing the Shah as a dictator.

 

People are indeed lazy. They'd rather spew the latest blog ramblings than factual looks at history, evidence, etc., from whatever source. Pathetic.

Ken is right that blowback cannot be dismissed, nor can it be considered the genesis of all the vitriol amongst the Muslim world toward the west.

 

I agree. He has no clue whatsoever about the fanaticism of the Islamofascist. By his argument, all the countries including ours, that has been attacked by muslim fanatics has been all wrong with their foreign policy.

For your info, even before America was attacked, our country has been experiencing a death blow from the terrorists. They just want to eliminate all non-muslims that oppose their religion and way of life so they can freely implement their religious law which to them is the fulfillment of the will of their god.

 

Nor can we forget that our own government sowed the seeds for Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda when we armed the Mujahadeen to drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan in the 1980s.

The Law of Unintended Consequences is ignored at one's peril.

 

Anytime a govt fails to think long-term or consider history or fail to think about the religious dimensions (if you will) of foreign policy, that govt does so at its peril. (some even assert we provoked the USSR in the Carter administration, and their assertion is not without merit).

 

The irony is that arming the Mujahadeen appeared to be the correct strategy at the time. Most, if not all, of we anti-Communists supported the policy.

 

True. Short-term "solutions" can produce long-term bad consequences.

Sometimes, humans just get it wrong. Like when you think Ohio State will eventually beat an SEC team

 

Well, if it's a court decision (and it may be for all I know) then this statement is rather confusing:

Evidently, he wouldn't have the power to make that allowance.

Regardless, we both agree that it would be nice to have driling at home. The tree huggers have gone crazy, IMHO.

 

You should reread the exchange.

You appear to be the only one who is confused.

 

What is your source for this information?

 

US Treasury,homepage..................Look for the correct link,I shouldn't have to do all the Homework..

 

I went to the treasury homepage and I searched the sight. Sorry, but I was unable to confirm what you are saying. If you can post a link here, I would like to see it. You made a claim. Either back it up or take back the claim.

A question for you: How did the US Government get into debt with China? What did we buy from them that causes us to owe them so much money?

 

After 10 minuites on the Treasury page, I would have to say BTID is right on. And the charts & graphs I saw only indicate things getting worse. Not to be contentious, but do you have a link that says we aren't in serious trouble ?

 

BTID made a specific claim and gave the treasury site as his source. I can't find the information on that site. Did you find it Curtis? Please provide me with a link?

Again, what have we purchased from the Chinese for which we owe 950 billion dollars?

If you show me the information and answer my question, I'll be happy to respond. Otherwise, I would only be responding to a false claim.

 

Answer.We bought nothing to cause this debt,we borrowed......money and lots of it! Via T Bills, Bonds ETC,Home mortgages sold to them.....by the thousands.
I would hope that you would have put a little effort into searching for the figures on the debt,but I will get the link and post it,cause it is that important.