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Ron Paul: Globalism

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Jul 16, 2007.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Globalism
    By Congressman Ron Paul(R-TX)
    July 16, 2007

    The recent defeat of the amnesty bill in the Senate came after outraged Americans made it clear to the political elite that they would not tolerate this legislation, which would further erode our national sovereignty. Similarly, polls increasingly show the unpopularity of the Iraq war, as well as of the Congress that seems incapable of ending it.

    Because some people who vocally oppose amnesty are supportive of the war, the ideological connection between support of the war and amnesty is often masked. If there is a single word explaining the reasons why we continue to fight unpopular wars and see legislation like the amnesty bill nearly become law, that word is “globalism.”

    The international elite, including many in the political and economic leadership of this country, believe our constitutional republic is antiquated and the loyalty Americans have for our form of government is like a superstition, needing to be done away with. When it benefits elites, they pay lip service to the American way, even while undermining it.

    We must remain focused on what ideology underlies the approach being taken by those who see themselves as our ruling-class, and not get distracted by the passions of the moment or the rhetorical devices used to convince us how their plans will be “good for us.” Whether it is managed trade being presented under the rhetoric of “free trade,” or the ideas of “regime change” abroad and “making the world safe for democracy” -- the underlying principle is globalism.

    Although different rhetoric is used in each instance, the basic underlying notion behind replacing regimes abroad and allowing foreign people to come to this country illegally is best understood by comprehending this ideal of the globalist elite. In one of his most lucid moments President Bush spoke of the “soft bigotry of low expectations.” Unfortunately, that bigotry is one of the core tenets at the heart of the globalist ideology.

    The basic idea is that foreigners cannot manage their own affairs so we have to do it for them. This may require sending troops to far off lands that do not threaten us, and it may also require “welcoming with open arms” people who come here illegally. All along globalists claim a moral high ground, as if our government is responsible for ensuring the general welfare of all people. Yet the consequences are devastating to our own taxpayers, as well as many of those we claim to be helping.

    Perhaps the most seriously damaged victim of this approach is our own constitutional republic, because globalism undermines both the republican and democratic traditions of this nation. Not only does it make a mockery of the self-rule upon which our republic is based, it also erodes the very institutions of our republic and replaces them with international institutions that are often incompatible with our way of life.

    The defeat of the amnesty bill proves though that there is no infallible logic, or predetermined march of history, that forces globalism on us.

    - www.house.gov:80/paul/tst/tst2007/tst071607.htm

     
  2. DQuixote

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    As a youngster I was a one-worlder, government can fix anything, just give us an international economy with open borders, unlimited free trade, if there's hostility anywhere the U.N. can rush in and put it down .............

    ...... then I became a Christian. Dedicated Christian. The blinders fell off. I don't care when it was added, thank you, but "One Nation Under God Indivisible" (notice there is no comma in there) was one of our greatest pronouncements.

    It speaks out loudly against this "one world under whatever" mentality we're headed for.
     
  3. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    Old Ronnie makes sense and then fails to stop at making sense and moves on to hysteria. His view in the op is a good one but to take it so far as to be completely isolated is insane and ridiculous. I probably could line up with him in many cases if he would relax just a bit.
     
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    Ron Paul is not an isolationist and to suggest that he is, is insane and ridiculous. To be "completely isolated" or to be an isolationist would include the tenant of protectionism in trade. Protectionism is not a Libertarian nor Republican belief and is not held by Dr. Paul. Dr. Paul is a non-interventionist who is a foreign trade proponent, just as the founders were.

    Btw, you may have missed it, but the individual that wrote the article in the OP, his name is Ron. Ronnie is the author's son.
     
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    Old Ronnie still espouses a portion of isolationism. He may support free trade but noninterventionism is part of isolationism. Absolute nonintervention is selfcentered as well as impossible.
     
  6. KenH

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    Which is why, Timmy, that Congressman Paul is not an isolationist.
     
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    Isnt Ronnie a noninterventionist?
     
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    Timmy,

    Congressman Paul advocates what our Founding Fathers advocated:

    "Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto." - Thomas Jefferson

    "It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world." - George Washington

    I would rather listen to the wisdom of our Founding Fathers and their disciples than listen to the foolishness of George W. Bush and his disciples.
     
  9. Baptist in Richmond

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    Hey KenH:

    It is WAY TOO LATE to reverse the inevitability of globalism.

    Regards,
    BiR
     
  10. KenH

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    Yes, I agree.
     
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    I wonder how much longer before we simply become one large trading region.
     
  12. Gideon

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    Is this speech what I think it is? Is a member of Congress acknowledging what conspiracy historians (Epperson, Quiggley etc...) have been saying for years? By the way, will the 2008 presidential election be rigged like the last two?
     
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    Someone from another country claiming the American presidential elelctions were rigged. I doubt you have even a viable argument for such ridiculousness. The left tried over here and fell short.
     
  14. Gideon

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    You tell me. You are in Florida after all.

    Don't worry, I think all elections are rigged, including the ones in Australia ("it's not who gets to vote, but who gets to count the votes that matters" - Joseph Stalin). A true democracy would tear itself apart inside a century. The only true democcracy that I can find in the history books is Athens in the 5th century BC and that was a chronically unstable state - no wonder they lost the Peloponnesian War.

    I won't go into the details of it, the historical material is easily available if you're interested, but the fact that a nation is stable proves to me that it is not a true democracy. Stable nations like Britain, the US and Australia are oligarchies (do you really think that just anybody could become a prime minister or a president?). Any nation with a one or two party system is an oligarchy - that's just common sense.

    By the way, I don't subscribe to either wing, left or right.

    One last thing - have you read any of FDR's biographies? You may not want to use him as your inspirational quote. Just a thought.
     
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    I was there in 2000, and remember that well.....
     
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    One doesn't have to be a globalist to intervene in Rwanda or anywhere humanity is under great persecution. And this nation, and its taxpayers should be very happy to pay for intervention in these cases. Iraq has been a perfectly justifiable war, but is a different situation. And I agree GWB seems to be a globalist, but his dedication to the war on terror makes his presidency justified, to me.
     
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    But it is not to late to fight the good fight against it. Armageddon is a certainty but we should fight against the all consuming influences leading us there, including globalism.
     
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    1) Globaloney nonsense. The U.S. military exists to defend the interests of these United States and theirs alone.

    2) And a disaster for the Bush administration, the Iraqi people, the entire Middle East, and the security of these United States.

    3) Any president who refuses to protect our borders is not dedicated to any war on terrorists.
     
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    I think FDR was a socialist right on the edge of communist. But the quote is valid regardless. In the 2000 elecetion it was the Dems that wanted all 4 recounts. But they only got three. When they didnt get the nhumbers they liked they kept asking for another. their motive should have been clear to all at this point. Counting chads and dimples is a subjective thing and is not comon practice. All the while claiming that every vote should count even if it was miss voted. However, the hypocrits worked hard all the while to disenfranchize the overseas military voters whos votes came in late due to no mistake of their own. Why? Well I am glad you asked. because they new that the polls showed the military personael was overwhelmingly for Bush. So someone who they thought would vote Democratic needed to have their miss vote counted but someoen who is likely to vote GOP should be penalized if the government didnt get their ballots back to the states in time.

    The recounts were ridiculous and they needed to be stopped. We currently have a Democrat womean in Sarasota pulling another stunt like 2000. They know no shame.
     
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