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Ron Reagan to Speak at Democrat Convention

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by Gershom, Jul 12, 2004.

  1. Gershom

    Gershom Active Member

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    You speak as if you know what you're talking about scientifically.. Please, as I asked before, please fill us in on why you support it. Pretty-please. Tell us why it is okay to destroy human embryos, and as a Christian no less.
     
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    I think the issue of stem cell reserarch and abortion are two different things. Even if Roe were to be overturned tomorrow, there would be an ample supply of aborted fetal material that would be available for stem cell research. Even if all elective abortions were to stop, nonelective abortions would still result in fetal tissue suitable for stem cell research.

    I do indeed find it a double standard that abortion in the US is legal, but stem cell research is illegal.
     
  3. Terry_Herrington

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    It is possible to do stem cell research without aborting babies for this express purpose.

    Since the tissue is available and will be destroyed anyway, why not use it?
     
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    Gotta agree with that one.
     
  7. Daisy

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    Thanks for the link.

    It's one son vs another. Did the father have a stance on this issue (did the issue exist while he was aware of things)?
     
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    Well, yes he had a stance on the issue. Michael Reagan points out that he was pro-life. It is the son who routinely opposed his father politically against the son who Reagan chose.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  9. Daisy

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    "the son who Reagan chose"? What do you mean?
     
  10. Joseph_Botwinick

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    That is something Michael Reagan said at his funeral, referring to the fact that Ronald Reagan chose him to be his son (aka...adoption).

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  11. Jeff Weaver

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    Posted by CMG
    If this is true, then why did Mr. Reagan sign the most liberal abortion law in America while he was governor of California in the 1960s.? He could have vetoed it.
     
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    CMG is talking about President Reagan, not Governor Reagan. Do you have the same beliefs you held twenty years ago?
     
  13. Jeff Weaver

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    Pretty much. Governor Reagan had by the time he became governor already supposedly been "converted" to the conservative point of view.
     
  14. Gershom

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    So your contention is that President Reagan didn't oppose abortion, and your basis is his governing of CA in the 1960's?
     
  15. church mouse guy

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    Thanks, Gershom. President Reagan said that he made a mistake in signing the California law. People have forgotten how low an abortionist used to be in the opinion of the American people. Personally, I think that a law should be passed making an abortionist guilty of murder and subject to the death penalty automatically. The medical doctor used to do no harm. Now the doctor is anxious to put you to death for money.
     
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    Reagan rarely visited Church, and had a rather "liberated" sexual morality. He was conservative, not Christian. He welcomed the votes of the religious right, so long as he didn't have to actually do anything for them.

    He's not a good role model for abortion, which he personally didn't oppose until his handlers told him it was good politically.
     
  17. Jeff Weaver

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    My contention is that Mr. Reagan didn't oppose abortion based on his actions.
     
  18. church mouse guy

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    So you are saying that the Democrats hated Reagan for nothing on that point?

    Do you remember Reagan's first press conference where he said that before he would bury a body he would try to see if the person was alive?
     
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    Were Mr. Reagan's words consistent with his actions?
     
  20. church mouse guy

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    Daisy, do you think that Reagan was pro-choice? We know that Kerry and Kennedy are pro-choice because they have said that they are.
     
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